Wrestling 2024-25

Started by ugarte, July 17, 2024, 09:50:40 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: abmarksI'd not assume he's going to be fine.  Each time you get concussed you end up at higher risk for having the next one, and having it be more severe.
obviously. i meant more that i haven't heard that he's out for the season, or even long term. i think the risk of reinjury is there but i also think he'll be back comfortably for the spring at worst.

ugarte

Injuries up and down the lineup so the trip to Las Vegas for one of the cooler in-season tournaments has been mostly a bust. Starters are out at 125, 141, 157, 197 and 285 with injuries; 165 and 184 are taking the semester off to retain eligibility.

With the depleted lineup, only 1 wrestler (Simon Ruiz at 174) advanced to the third round. Hope this season comes together soon...

ugarte

The team is allegedly nearly back to full strength. We have a dual meet against NC State on Saturday and then 1/3 at Mizzou. The spring semester starts, for Athletics purposes on Saturday so Julian Ramirez (165) and Chris Foca (184) will both be back in action. The injured include Greg Diakomihalis (125), Vince Cornella (141), Meyer Shapiro (157), Mikey Dellagatta (197) and Ashton Davis (285). I don't know which are expected back for NC State and who is taking the holiday break to finish recovering.

In preparing for their return to action, Foca and Ramirez went to the Patriot Open at George Mason. Foca went 3-1, losing in the finals to a fellow AA contender from Maryland. He also went to SV to beat a wrestler from F&M who stunned him with a last second takedown in the first round of NCAAs last year. Could have started better. Meanwhile, Ramirez went 4-0, dominating his first three opponents before having a lot of trouble with a wrestler from GMU. Ramirez was trailing all the way. Down by 9 with time running out, he took advantage of an awkward position and got a clutch late pin.

This is the state of the rankings heading in to the Spring semester. The only real surprise is that Ungar has some bad losses and, given some general skepticism of his ability to move up to 133, he's barely hanging on to a ranking.


Flo WIN Intermat OpenMat AWN WSt CR   RPI
125: Greg D. 13 19 11 15  9  6 xx   xx
133: Ungar 29 NR 30 NR NR 32 xx   xx
141: Cornella 14 15 NR 19 13 22 xx   xx
149: Fernandez 23 NR 18 19 18 19 xx   xx
157: Shapiro 2 2 2    4  2  1 xx   xx
165: Ramirez 5 6 5  4  5  4 xx   xx
174: Ruiz 12 10 11 10 11 10 xx   xx
184: Foca   14 9 9 12  7  6 xx   xx
197: Mike D. 26 NR 25 NR NR 27 xx   xx  
285: Davis NR NR 32 NR NR 47 xx   xx
TEAM NCAA: 10 11 10 20 xx  8 xx   xx
TEAM DUAL:      xx 9 10 12 xx  4 xx   xx

Flo ranks to 33.
WIN ranks to 20.
Intermat ranks to 33.
Open Mat ranks to 20.
AWN ranks to 20.
WrestleStat ELO system.
CR and RPI These rankings aren't released for a while. I include the columns so I don't have to redo the spacing.

Flo Ivy Rankings (out of 6):
125: Greg D - 1
133: Ungar - 1
141: Cornella - 1
149: Fernandez - 3
157: Shapiro - 1
165: Ramirez - 1
174: Ruiz - 2
184: Foca - 1
197: Dellagatta - 2
285: Davis - 3

Ken711

Huge wrestling get for Cornell.  

After being committed to the University of Michigan since November 2023; consensus top-15 national 2025 Big Boarder (#10 by MatScouts; #12 by FloWrestling), Jude Correa re-opened his recruitment recently.

And on Saturday afternoon; he decided that it is much cooler to be a Redman than to be a Wolverine!!!  Following the conclusion of his three-peat at the Powerade; the unanimous #1 215-pounder in the land announced his intentions to compete collegiately on behalf of Cornell University.

Unbeaten since his freshman season and surpassing the 100-career victory milestone this weekend per the PA-Wrestling database.

TimV

Redman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Trotsky

Quote from: TimVRedman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
#yellcornell

Swampy

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TimVRedman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
#yellcornell

Earlier today I walked by a car (in Brooklyn) with NY plates having "BIGRED 06" ::drunk::

ugarte

Quote from: TimVRedman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
Redman has been the Cornell wrestling mascot for a while now.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TimVRedman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
Redman has been the Cornell wrestling mascot for a while now.
Hoping Correa doesn't become the mascot.
Al DeFlorio '65

RichH

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TimVRedman?  REDMAN??? Dear lord please dont let this take root.
Redman has been the Cornell wrestling mascot for a while now.

15+ years now.

https://cornellsun.com/2010/11/18/10-questions-with-redman-cornell/

mountainred

Not to steal Ugarte's thunder, but the Big Red took a dual at Missouri last night 26-12.  Neither team was at full strength, but impressive wins by Meyer Shapiro (17-2 TF), Josh Saunders (late takedown and back points to earn a major) and Chris Foca (largely the same deal).  Simon Ruiz is probably kicking himself not getting a tech fall in a dominant 14 point win.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainredNot to steal Ugarte's thunder, but the Big Red took a dual at Missouri last night 26-12.  Neither team was at full strength, but impressive wins by Meyer Shapiro (17-2 TF), Josh Saunders (late takedown and back points to earn a major) and Chris Foca (largely the same deal).  Simon Ruiz is probably kicking himself not getting a tech fall in a dominant 14 point win.
And Ramirez has to be kicking himself for not getting a major!

Never apologize for beating me to the punch. I'm happy to see other activity in the thread.

CAS

Cornell was missing 6 starters in beating #19 Missouri!

ugarte

Quote from: CASCornell was missing 6 starters in beating #19 Missouri!
to be fair, Missouri was missing at least three starters, including their two best  (#1 Keegan O'Toole and 4x AA Rocky Elam)

In other news, we had some hot recruit action this weekend. At the Doc Buchanan tournament in Clovis, CA, the Cortez Brothers both finished in 3d place at the Doc Buchanan (Isaiah at 129 and Elijah at 141) and Joseph Toscano is wrestling in the title match at 147.

Edinboro hosted a tournament this weekend as well and we had three placers who will be at Cornell next year.

Louie Cerchio finished in 2d at 165, Jaxon Joy finished in 3d at 149 and Cash Henderson finished in 3d at 285. At the same tournament, Ahston Davis - our nominal starting heavyweight - took second place as he works back from injury. Shapiro's backup at 157, Benny Rogers, won his weight with a 16-1 tech fall in the final. Dellagatta was supposed to get some action as well, since he is also recovering from an injury, but he didn't take the mat after being registered so he might have had a setback while preparing to wrestle.

Final bit of news - Vince Cornella, who was supposed to be our starter at 141, is done for the year. He is still rehabbing from the knee injury that ruined the end of his 2024 season. Joshua Saunders, who has been starting in his place, beat a top 20 wrestler from Missouri in his best match since coming to Cornell. Hope he really pulls it all together this year, since it's his last chance.

ugarte

Here are the rankings from around the internet. The comments below are compared to the prior week but tbh the rankings have been pretty stable but for some dropping due to inactivity. 125, 133, 157, 197 and 285 have all been mostly absent for a month - though Shapiro has recently returned. 165 and 184 were away for the fall semester but have returned with a bang.


                Flo WIN IM TOM AWN BEG* WSt SHP CR   RPI
125: Greg D. 13 NR 13 15 11 10 5 18* xx   xx
133: Ungar NR NR 31 NR NR 23 34 34* xx   xx
141: Saunders 23 16 26 14 11 12 29 20 xx   xx
149: Fernandez 21 20 18 19 17 15 18 30 xx   xx
157: Shapiro 2 2 2   3 1 1 1 xx* xx   xx
165: Ramirez 5 5 5 4 5 4 4 15 xx   xx
174: Ruiz 14 NR 12 9 11 9 10 13 xx   xx
184: Foca   8 6 8 8 7 5 8 6 xx   xx
197: Mike D. 25 NR 28 NR NR 19 34 15 xx   xx  
285: Davis NR NR NR NR NR 25 56 41 xx   xx
TEAM NCAA: 10 9 9 10 xx 7 6 25 xx   xx
TEAM DUAL:      10 10 11 12 xx 9 7 16 xx   xx

Flo ranks to 33. Ungar slips out of the rankings, Foca jumps to 8, Saunders enters the rankings and Flo releases its first dual rankings.
Wrestling Insider News ranks to 20. Greg D. falls out, likely due to inactivity. Saunders and Fernandez join the top 20. Still no Ruiz, which is crazy - he's 4-4 against the WIN top 20, 8-0 outside it.
Intermat ranks to 33. Small boost for Saunders.
The Open Mat ranks to 20.
Amateur Wrestling News ranks to 20.
B.E.G. ranks to 33. Cornell fan is part of the team and they tend to rank our guys a little higher than the others.
WrestleStat ELO style. Compton (171) listed starter by WS.
Seton Hall Pirate's Dual Impact Index SHP has a bespoke algorithm that I don't know the secret sauce behind but I also don't know if it's confidential. SHP has Greg D. and Ungar currently considered non-starters due to inactivity, so their rankings have an asterisk to show around where they would fall if they were considered the starter. Milani (31) and Ferrara (20) are the SHP starters. Not sure why Greg D. and Ungar are out of SHP's lineup when Mike D. and Davis are in and have also been MIA. Shapiro doesn't have enough matches yet to show up in SHP's rankings but his rough low-match-count ranking would put him at 12.
Coaches Rank and RPI haven't come out yet but I think the first rankings are soon. Leaving them just to have the columns ready in advance because it's a PITA to set up.

Flo also releases Ivy rankings, which came out yesterday:

125: Greg D - 1
133: Ungar - 1
141: Saunders - 3
149: Fernandez - 3
157: Shapiro - 1
165: Ramirez - 1
174: Ruiz - 2
184: Foca - 1
197: Dellagatta - 2
285: Compton - 5 (Davis was 4 on December 26th - another artifact of the injuries to the lineup and ranking services not knowing who is coming back)