Men's Basketball 24-25

Started by dbilmes, April 27, 2024, 01:15:47 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: arugulaWhy are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?
with all due respect... shut up

upprdeck

because finals are next week?

chimpfood

Quote from: rss77Brown looks scary. They lost 2 big men from last year-one to season ending injury and the other to the portal. Thought they were toast but they are on a winning streak
and took down previously undefeated URI in double overtime.
Hosting the Ivy tourney too. I would guess it'll be us, Yale, them and Princeton and I could see that going to anyone.

scoop85

Quote from: ugarteIncredible win. Watched us blow a 21 point lead and then take over down the stretch for the W. And on the road? Amazing.

Still funny that our first ACC win since 1951 is against... Cal?

I only watched the 1st half live, but knew there would certainly be agita before the game was over. Had you told me that Cal would come all the way back and take the lead, I'd say no way we'd get the W, as we've seen similar scenarios over the years at 'Cuse that ended up with a disappointing loss. Thankfully the guys showed some mettle and pulled this one out.

We have more depth of scoring than any of our teams since the 2008-2010 glory years. Any of our starters are real threats; Williams, after a bumpy start, has really found his game. Ragland is playing the best ball of his career, and Noard and Fiegen are really coming into their own. And, how about Okereke?! Shocking that a guy with his size and skill set apparently wasn't recruited by D1 programs. If he continues his level of play, he'll be All-Ivy this year.  
 
I had some doubts about this team early on, especially after the inexplicable loss to Robert Morris. And they still sometimes are a bit too casual with protecting the ball, leading to some maddeningly unnecessary turnovers.  But that issue aside, they seem to be gelling, and Jaques is finding his footing as a head coach. The Ivies seem pretty wide open this year, and I think we have as good a chance to win it as the other likely contenders, which to me would include Yale, Princeton, Brown, and Columbia.

arugula

Quote from: upprdeckbecause finals are next week?


Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn't  want my kid focused on basketball right now.  Doesn't send the right message that this an academic institution first.

arugula

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: arugulaWhy are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?
with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.

chimpfood

It's not like they can't study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

ugarte

Quote from: arugula
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: arugulaWhy are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?
with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.
Within hours of the team's biggst win since Wisconsin in 2010 and you're pearl-clutching about finals? Tell me who the mature one is, keeping in mind that I don't care about your sense of maturity at all.

Also keep in mind that I am guessing but reasonably sure (based on recent practices) that Cal was scheduled as a friends-and-family road game for a graduating senior. So I repeat my opening request.

dag14

Quote from: arugula
Quote from: upprdeckbecause finals are next week?


Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn't  want my kid focused on basketball right now.  Doesn't send the right message that this an academic institution first.

As a retired Cornell professor, I can tell you that the student athletes who deal with competition before finals are perfectly capable of handling the situation.  It is actually better than a mid-week game during the semester when your contest might actually fall on a day when you have a couple of exams or 3 papers due.  At least now they are not juggling class attendance along with games and exams.

Student athletes also know weeks in advance when their exams and final papers/projects will be due. For the most part, they are organized and disciplined -- probably more so than the average student who does not play a sport -- so balancing their academic and athletic commitments is part of what they sign up for when they decide to play in the Ivy League.

We all admire the athletic prowess of these kids but unless you were a student athlete, a parent or someone who works closely with them in an academic setting it is really hard to appreciate what they are able to achieve.  I don't know if they still hold the 400 Club breakfasts, but to be in a room celebrating with the student athletes who achieved a 4.0 average, was a highlight.  And it involved dozens of students each semester, not just a handful.  Plus students who managed to do it multiple terms at Cornell.

arugula

Quote from: chimpfoodIt's not like they can't study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

As opposed to the hockey team?

arugula

Quote from: dag14
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: upprdeckbecause finals are next week?


Incorrect. Currently study days. Finals begin Friday. As a parent of a current student I sure as as shit wouldn't  want my kid focused on basketball right now.  Doesn't send the right message that this an academic institution first.

As a retired Cornell professor, I can tell you that the student athletes who deal with competition before finals are perfectly capable of handling the situation.  It is actually better than a mid-week game during the semester when your contest might actually fall on a day when you have a couple of exams or 3 papers due.  At least now they are not juggling class attendance along with games and exams.

Student athletes also know weeks in advance when their exams and final papers/projects will be due. For the most part, they are organized and disciplined -- probably more so than the average student who does not play a sport -- so balancing their academic and athletic commitments is part of what they sign up for when they decide to play in the Ivy League.

We all admire the athletic prowess of these kids but unless you were a student athlete, a parent or someone who works closely with them in an academic setting it is really hard to appreciate what they are able to achieve.  I don't know if they still hold the 400 Club breakfasts, but to be in a room celebrating with the student athletes who achieved a 4.0 average, was a highlight.  And it involved dozens of students each semester, not just a handful.  Plus students who managed to do it multiple terms at Cornell.


Understood. But California?  Why not in late December or early January. One of the great things about Ivy hockey and basketball is the majority of games are on weekends and bus trips away.

chimpfood

Quote from: arugula
Quote from: chimpfoodIt's not like they can't study on the road, it would be an unreasonably long break for a basketball season if they were off starting last weekend

As opposed to the hockey team?
Yes most basketball teams have no real break at all while almost every hockey team does.

upprdeck

It was a tues game. Finals start friday and into next week.  They are home today.

They didn't miss class, They had study week. They had hours of downtime in the travel as well.

arugula

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: arugulaWhy are we playing 2500 miles from home during finals?
with all due respect... shut up

Very mature.
Within hours of the team's biggst win since Wisconsin in 2010 and you're pearl-clutching about finals? Tell me who the mature one is, keeping in mind that I don't care about your sense of maturity at all.

Also keep in mind that I am guessing but reasonably sure (based on recent practices) that Cal was scheduled as a friends-and-family road game for a graduating senior. So I repeat my opening request.

Can we agree that telling someone to shut up when you disagree is not the most mature response?

Can we also agree that school is more important than sports?  Shouldn't be a controversial opinion.  


Not pearl clutching.  Sorry to offend.

ugarte

Quick search and I think the last time we beat:

Patriot: @Army 12/8/2024
MAAC: @Iona 11/25/2024
SoCon: Samford 11/8/2024
Horizon: @Robert Morris 12/22/2023
CAA: Monmouth 11/29/2023
WAC: Utah Valley 11/20/2023 (Neutral site)
Big West: Cal State-Fullerton 11/19/2023 (Neutral site)
A10: @Fordham 11/11/2023
America East: Binghamton 12/29/2022
NEC: @St. Francis(PA) 11/14/2022
MEAC: Coppin State 12/3/2021
Big South: Longwood 12/17/2018
MAC: Toledo 11/24/2017
OVC: SE Missouri State 12/23/2016 (Neutral site)
Big 10: Wisconsin 3/21/2010 (NCAA R32)
Great West (RIP): @South Dakota 1/8/2010
Big East: St. John's 12/21/2009 (ECAC Holiday Tournament finals at MSG)
SEC: @Alabama 11/14/2009 (friends-and-family game for Louis Dale)
Big Sky: Eastern Washington 12/3/1994 (Neutral site)
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 12/29/1993 (Neutral site)
Pac 12 (RIP-ish): Cal 12/30/1992 (Seton Hall / Meadowlands consolation game, over Jason Kidd)
WCC: Portland 12/30/83 (thx mountainred!)

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Big XII: Last game I could find was a loss at #1 Kansas 1/4/2010 and goddamn we almost had this one

Our next game is against MVC's Illinois State. Conference realignment makes all of this tricky but feel free to go back further than 1989-90, add conferences (including historical conferences like SWC), search for specific opponents or check my work.

I should probably get back to work.