NCAA Tournament 2024

[Will]

It is?  I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.

40 years here, too.  It is.

It's primarily  the self-absorption of Bostonians.  BC students are likely to be locals.  BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.

But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants.  BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.

I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.

Opinions vary.

Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.

For what it's worth, BC's Class of 2026 is purportedly only 29.25% New Englanders (couldn't tell you about Bostonians in particular) and 30.45% from the Mid-Atlantic states: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/common-data-set.html
Meanwhile, Cornell's Class of 2025 is 31.7% from New York State alone (plus another 18.6% from the other Mid-Atlantic states): https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Profile2021-first-year.pdf

[arugula]

Wow.  Ad hominem much?  My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group.  My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.

Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill.  Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).

As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.

BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied.  The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.  

And that's fine.  Not everybody has to be Goethe.  The world needs finance bros too.

Ok but still not clear why BC fans are so annoying.

[jtwcornell91]

It is?  I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.

40 years here, too.  It is.

It's primarily  the self-absorption of Bostonians.  BC students are likely to be locals.  BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.

But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants.  BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.

IIRC, BC was the one Jesuit college that didn't take in displaced students from Loyola University New Orleans in Fall 2005 after Katrina.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

It is?  I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.

40 years here, too.  It is.

It's primarily  the self-absorption of Bostonians.  BC students are likely to be locals.  BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.

But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants.  BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.

I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.

Opinions vary.

Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.

For what it's worth, BC's Class of 2026 is purportedly only 29.25% New Englanders (couldn't tell you about Bostonians in particular) and 30.45% from the Mid-Atlantic states: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/common-data-set.html
Meanwhile, Cornell's Class of 2025 is 31.7% from New York State alone (plus another 18.6% from the other Mid-Atlantic states): https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Profile2021-first-year.pdf

Not a fair comparison, since much of Cornell is a NY State institution.

[arugula]

It is?  I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.

40 years here, too.  It is.

It's primarily  the self-absorption of Bostonians.  BC students are likely to be locals.  BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.

But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants.  BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.

IIRC, BC was the one Jesuit college that didn't take in displaced students from Loyola University New Orleans in Fall 2005 after Katrina.

Now that's bad.

[ugarte]

Wow.  Ad hominem much?  My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group.  My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.

Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill.  Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).

As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.

BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied.  The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.  

And that's fine.  Not everybody has to be Goethe.  The world needs finance bros too.

Ok but still not clear why BC fans are so annoying.

you have to understand that greg processes the world through a cumulation of prejudices and loathings - no subject too small, no umbrage too large - and has no idea how crazy it sounds to third parties when he turns on the opinion hose. most people just nod as they back away and i do this.

the actual hockey, though, he gets right as often as i do.

[Trotsky]

you have to understand that greg processes the world through a cumulation of prejudices and loathings - no subject too small, no umbrage too large - and has no idea how crazy it sounds to third parties when he turns on the opinion hose. most people just nod as they back away and i do this.

the actual hockey, though, he gets right as often as i do.

This guy gets it.

[Tom_Hamill]

Classy response, Greg.

[ugarte]

Classy response, Greg.

we've been at this for a while. we know each other's deal.

[Robb]

Wow.  Ad hominem much?  My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group.  My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.

Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill.  Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).

As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.

BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied.  The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.  

And that's fine.  Not everybody has to be Goethe.  The world needs finance bros too.

Needs?  What - are the poors hungry again?

[Trotsky]

The world needs finance bros too.

Needs?  What - are the poors hungry again?

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

[arugula]

The world needs finance bros too.

Needs?  What - are the poors hungry again?

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer.  I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.

[Trotsky]

The world needs finance bros too.

Needs?  What - are the poors hungry again?

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer.  I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.

I'm just glad there still are union organizers.

Is ILR wholly owned by Amazon now?

[Weder]

The world needs finance bros too.

Needs?  What - are the poors hungry again?

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer.  I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.

I'm just glad there still are union organizers.

Is ILR wholly owned by Amazon now?

ILR actually has extensive training programs for labor leaders and organizers.
https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/worker-institute/training

[arugula]

Correct. Ives is corporate but the extension programs are heavily union based.  I am a union lawyer and when I was at ILR in the 80s I think it was more corporate.