Harvard @ Cornell Saturday

[sah67]

At some point we are actually going to get a penalty for the period change over fish throwing, but the students don't think the refs will do it.

I think the last time it happened was 2011 (when fish were tossed to "celebrate" our tying goal in the third period):
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mcorhar1.f18

We killed the fish throwing penalty, but Harvard got another PP right after and scored the GWG on that one.

[Iceberg]

At some point we are actually going to get a penalty for the period change over fish throwing, but the students don't think the refs will do it.

I think the last time it happened was 2011 (when fish were tossed to "celebrate" our tying goal in the third period):
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mcorhar1.f18

We killed the fish throwing penalty, but Harvard got another PP right after and scored the GWG on that one.

I was at that game and while I don't remember the fish penalty, I do remember the GWG. Not a pretty game

[Trotsky]

IIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

[Trotsky]

Some of these posts reminded me of why I only went to two of the games against Harvard as a student. They always seemed to attract some of the most obnoxious folks who never appear at any other games.

Take young males and add alcohol.  When I was a student, the fans in A and B at Fish 'n Fowl were, how shall I put this?, more "attractive" than the fans the rest of the season.  They were there to be seen, not to watch.

I remember at a game in the early 80s a typically drunken fool and his Five Towns GF were laughing and cursing at (both) teams, and as the ushers approached the guy he turned to us and yelled Bluto-style, "Who's with me?!"  

We all applauded as they frog marched him out.

[Give My Regards]

IIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

The one I can still remember was '95, the last one of that streak, when somebody heaved a fish onto the ice at the start of the second period.  Minor was called and announced, and then Arthur read the no-throwing-things announcement for the third time that night, adding in his best I'm-surrounded-by-assholes voice, "as has just been demonstrated, the referees WILL call a penalty." Harvard scored on the PP.  Not the game-winner, but their first goal in a game the Big Red would lose 2-1.

[Trotsky]

I believe that was when Arthur said, "For those who did not hear the first warning, or are incapable of understanding, ..."  It was Peak Arthur; AFAIC the crowning achievement of a legendary career.

If they replace him with one of those smarmy let's get ready rumble fuckwits I will personally remedy the situation.

[yougoon]

Wish it had happened last night.  The student section was a little too rowdy tonight and needs to relearn some of the chants from the list on elynah.

Although I believe in adaptation and new, creative cheer development I agree with "relearn" suggestion:
1) In addition to jingling keys at inappropriate moments, it is disappointing to hear the students chant "warm up the bus" when I'm pretty sure it was "go start the bus." (perhaps I am remembering wrong?)
2) Also, maybe the "you goon" cheer was intentionally changed, but the "aaahhh, see ya! a-hole, you goon!" has morphed to something else that sounds silly to me. (But maybe I'm just invested in the original because I inspired it...)
3) Personally, I'd like to hear the Black Hole cheer resurrected - haven't heard the whole cheer in a long time - starting with "hey ___, you're not a goalie, you're a sieve... That's just plain fun to do with the crowd!
4) Finally, the canned scoreboard crowd-rowdy-maker videos have to go. Embarrassing, impersonal, lazy IMO. I think St Lawrence uses the hi-tech score board much more effectively than Cornell.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I remember "Go start the bus", too.  Unless we played Army ("Go start the tank") or Sucks ("Go staht the cahr").

I think the whole "Hey goalie...your _____ Called" is uninteresting.  Nobody can hear anything but You suck".

I despise the tubas "Over There". Manly because the cheers don't fit the rhythm.  It sounds clumsy to me,

[BearLover]

What the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

I heard third hand that ECAC commissioner directed the band not to play it.

Umm. And did you get an explanation as to why?? Why does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

[sah67]

Why does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

[BearLover]

Why does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

[sah67]

They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

What's your definition of "long time"? It definitely wasn't a "thing" 20 years ago when I was in the student section, and in my last 12 years of being a season-ticket holder on the townie side, I've only heard it become noticeable during the COVID era.

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now?

What led you to jump to that assumption? Seems pretty clear to me that it was a one time deal to try to settle the students down last night since league officials were in the house.

[BearLover]

They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

It definitely wasn't a "thing" 20 years ago when I was in the student section, and in my last 12 years of being a season-ticket holder on the townie side, I've only heard it become noticeable during the "COVID era."

Fair enough. It's been going on for a few years at least, though.

But the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years. They would drop F-bombs with or without this song (as we saw last night). Are we not allowed to even play the song anymore? This is a college sports event, not kindergarten tee-ball.

[sah67]

But the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

[BearLover]

But the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

In four years of sitting in the student section with everyone yelling "fuck 'em up," never once did I see someone tossed out for that.