Cornell vs Arizona State, 12/30 7:30 pm

Started by Trotsky, December 30, 2023, 10:17:49 AM

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chimpfood

I liked what we did in the shootout yesterday, walking the puck in close and then ripping a shot. Today we just tried to get the goalie to bite on a move and push it around him which didn't really work. I don't know if this was because of the smaller goalie, guys wanting to switch it up, or what, but I wish we would've just stuck with what worked.

shafer

For the life of me, I don't know why they resurfaced a stripe of ice for the shootout tonight but didn't last night. They've got some really good ice on those rinks and we got to see full periods of high speed hockey.
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BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodI liked what we did in the shootout yesterday, walking the puck in close and then ripping a shot. Today we just tried to get the goalie to bite on a move and push it around him which didn't really work. I don't know if this was because of the smaller goalie, guys wanting to switch it up, or what, but I wish we would've just stuck with what worked.
Funnily enough, Bancroft (who scored a shootout goal vs UMass) seemed to give away his strategy in the UMass post-game interview (though he did suggest it was specifically his strategy against bigger goalies).  I imagine the ASU goalie was aware of the move he used the night before.

BearLover

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Quote from: DafatoneTwo ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.
It's okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren't going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.
Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can't afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn't increase.

upprdeck

you had 3 chances to beat ASU and we tied one..  in theory we could tie and win next week and still beat them in the h2h..

The better teaam for long stretches, but they are a bit more dangerous when you make mistakes.

Trotsky

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Quote from: DafatoneTwo ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.
It's okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren't going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.
Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can't afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn't increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

Dafatone

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Quote from: DafatoneTwo ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.
It's okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren't going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.
Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can't afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn't increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

Chris H82

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneTwo ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.
It's okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren't going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.
Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can't afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn't increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

To quote that ancient philosopher Buckaroo Banzai, "...no matter where you go, there you are."
"What... is your favorite color?"  "Blue. No, yel--auuuuugh!"

arugula

This is where the weakness of the conference really hurts.  We are Harvard's only win. Repeat that-H has one f-ing win!!!  That hurts us in many ways.  But generally, as mentioned above, we can't afford to lose to anyone but Q and must win some of these OOC games.

arugula

This is where the weakness of the conference really hurts.  We are Harvard's only win. Repeat that-H has one f-ing win!!!  That hurts us in many ways.  But generally, as mentioned above, we can't afford to lose to anyone but Q and must win some of these OOC games.


Trotsky

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneTwo ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.
It's okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren't going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.
Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can't afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn't increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

To quote that ancient philosopher Buckaroo Banzai, "...no matter where you go, there you are."

So What?

Big Deal.

adamw

Quote from: DafatoneI think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.
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BearLover

Our RPI is a function of our win % and strength of schedule. It does not matter how our wins and losses are distributed among our opponents. All that matters is the number of wins and losses. Beating Q and losing to Yale is the same as beating Yale and losing to Q.*

*except for the "quality win bonus, though I think that's a minor factor

Trotsky

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Quote from: DafatoneI think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.

It wasn't USCHO/CHN, but it was the rink.  There was a noticeable delay after the game ended, so some intern forgot to hit send.