Womens Basketball

Started by rss77, December 06, 2023, 02:19:38 PM

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rss77

Red women pulled out a gutsy win over the Bonnies last night. They have some good 1st years like Kust and Clarke. Unfortunately like the last 2 seasons they have no reliable outside shooters.  Like in football maybe it's time to move on from Smith as Head Coach.

scoop85

Quote from: rss77Red women pulled out a gutsy win over the Bonnies last night. They have some good 1st years like Kust and Clarke. Unfortunately like the last 2 seasons they have no reliable outside shooters.  Like in football maybe it's time to move on from Smith as Head Coach.

Yep, the other Ivies (especially Princeton and Columbia!) have developed far stronger programs than Cornell. Other than when Jeomi Maduka fall into her lap 15 years ago, Smith hasn't produced particularly good teams. Time to move on as you said.

ugarte

Afternoon game against Marist. 15-0 lead, Marist came back to tie at 48 in the third, Cornell pulls away with a 26-13 4th Quarter. 6-5 record so far.

dbilmes

Quote from: ugarteAfternoon game against Marist. 15-0 lead, Marist came back to tie at 48 in the third, Cornell pulls away with a 26-13 4th Quarter. 6-5 record so far.
It would have been nice if we had been able to defeat Syracuse after building up a 14-point lead. The women's team has been beating a lot of weak teams, so their record will be misleading heading into Ivy play. Yale, on the other hand, has a 2-10 record, but has lost a lot of close games while playing a much stronger schedule. I expect Yale to do much better than Cornell in Ivy play.

scoop85

Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: ugarteAfternoon game against Marist. 15-0 lead, Marist came back to tie at 48 in the third, Cornell pulls away with a 26-13 4th Quarter. 6-5 record so far.
It would have been nice if we had been able to defeat Syracuse after building up a 14-point lead. The women's team has been beating a lot of weak teams, so their record will be misleading heading into Ivy play. Yale, on the other hand, has a 2-10 record, but has lost a lot of close games while playing a much stronger schedule. I expect Yale to do much better than Cornell in Ivy play.

If (as expected) we have a losing record in Ivy play, I think it will be time for a coaching change.

dbilmes

From the Cornell website on Dayna Smith:
In her 18 seasons at the helm of the Big Red program, Smith has led Cornell to unprecedented success. The winningest coach in the history of the program, and the second-longest tenured active women's basketball coach in the Ivy League, she has raised the bar for the Big Red, making success an expectation among its players, alumni and fans.
If this is what it looks like with the bar raised, I'd hate to see what it would it would look like otherwise. Also, Smith has been coaching for 21 seasons, but her bio on the official website hasn't been updated to reflect that. In any case, in 21 seasons, she has had two winning records and one .500 season, with one Ivy title. Her overall Ivy record is 102-192, a 34.7 winning percentage. It's hard to make a strong case for retaining her, even if she is the longest-tenured active coach in the Ivy League (or the second-longest, since it's listed both ways on the Cornell website).

Chris '03

Princeton 79
Cornell 38

Seems not great.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

scoop85

Quote from: Chris '03Princeton 79
Cornell 38

Seems not great.

Smith's got to get the hook after this season.

dbilmes

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Chris '03Princeton 79
Cornell 38

Seems not great.

Smith's got to get the hook after this season.
Smith's got to go, but not because of this blowout loss to Princeton. Princeton is a dominant program in Ivy women's basketball. Earlier this season, it lost by three points to No. 3 UCLA on the road, lost to Caitlin Clark and Iowa by 9 points, and beat No. 20 Oklahoma. Princeton is going to have a lot of blowout wins in the Ivies this season. It has won a game in the NCAA tournament each of the past two seasons.

rss77

Yes Princeton is getting top 100 players.  Thinking Ivy WBB is going to be a three team race between Columbia, Harvard, and Princeton.  Smith has not been able too attract top shelf talent to East Hill.

scoop85

Quote from: rss77Yes Princeton is getting top 100 players.  Thinking Ivy WBB is going to be a three team race between Columbia, Harvard, and Princeton.  Smith has not been able too attract top shelf talent to East Hill.

Princeton's always been strong, but Columbia and others have left us stuck in our tracks. Time for a change at the top.

dbilmes

How about some love for the women's basketball team. They beat Dartmouth handily for their first Ivy win in a battle for the basement.

scoop85

Quote from: dbilmesHow about some love for the women's basketball team. They beat Dartmouth handily for their first Ivy win in a battle for the basement.

Glad for them, but that program needs new leadership.

rss77

And some players who can put the basket. Cornell has been pretty poor especially shooting 3s.

scoop85

Quote from: rss77And some players who can put the basket. Cornell has been pretty poor especially shooting 3s.

Proving my point.