Ticket Line Procedures

[Chris 02]

Athletics has posted an explanation over at:

http://cornellbigred.ocsn.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/090403aaa.html

I noticed that if you open the PDF file, there's some additional information in there that is not in the main article.  Such as assembling time on Friday...



Post Edited (09-05-03 13:26)

[Marcin]

Hey-

I'm a new student here, and I really want to know how this ticket thing works.  I know you camp out, but after that, I'm lost.  If someone could answer a few of my questions, it'd be great-

1) Where does the campout take place?  In front of Barnes?  In back?
2) How does this number system work?  People walk down the like giving us numbers, then we pay, or what?
3) What's this random number check til 11 PM thing?  We need to stand in line til 11?
4) What are the best seats at Lynah?  I know that section B is the best, but the chances of me getting that are probably slim to none.

An answer to any or all of these questions would be greatly appreciated.  Also, any stories that you might have of your campout experience would rock too.

[underskill]

Does anyone know if they're opening up the Ramin Room on Friday night again, and if the 4:45 thing is actually going to be enforced this year?

[Chris 02]

[Q]
1) Where does the campout take place? In front of Barnes? In back?
[/Q]
I've been gone a year and correct me if I'm wrong, but Barnes Hall is on Ho Plaza across from WSH and Gannett.  From my recollection, the line is behind the field house (AKA Bartels Hall).

[Q]
2) How does this number system work? People walk down the line giving us numbers, then we pay, or what?
[/Q]
Yeah that's pretty much it.  

[Q]
3) What's this random number check til 11 PM thing? We need to stand in line til 11?
[/Q]
If you really want tickets, standing in line isn't that bad.  Besides it's a good time to get to know the other Faithful.  

[Q]
4) What are the best seats at Lynah? I know that section B is the best, but the chances of me getting that are probably slim to none.
[/Q]
There aren't really any bad seats at Lynah.  (except maybe Section O, if an opposing team brings their own band (Clarkson, Colgate, RPI)).  There aren't any post-blocking obstructions and the glass is relatively new and doesn't contain those horrific dividers that tend to get in your way.  

I had seats in the front row of Section B in 01-02.  They were quite good, but it was sometimes hard to see the far corner.  So with that said, higher up might be better.  

Stories...hmmm....I think we watched a DVD on someone's laptop.  We had an extension cord plugged into an outlet outside of the field house.  Unfortunately campus safety showed up and told us our cord wasn't rated for "external use", so that ended that party.  The other thing not-so-pleasant thing about that night was the constant threat of rain (it one of those 40 degree nights).  But the Lynah experience was well worth it!



Post Edited (09-05-03 15:29)

[DeltaOne81]

Underskill,

A little birdie tells me they'll actually be distributing line numbers on Friday if there's a big enough crowd, like last year. A little birdie also tells me an early line will be acceptable near biotech. You guys better behave :-P.

[Dave]

My gut feeling is that they'll start handing out line numbers sometime Friday night. Imagine if they stuck to what's on paper (line numbers being handed out Saturday morning)... then they'd have to police the line overnight, keep the integrity and order of the line intact, and I'd assume that it'd just be way too overwhelming. (And knowing Cornell... they'd really mess it up too)

They'll start the line numbers Fri. night like last year... that way everyone can get inside the Ramin room, find whatever place to camp out, and then wait it out... it worked last year, so don't fix it...

My only suggestion to make it better would be to start handing out line numbers very soon after the first allowable line is formed... say at like 5:30 - 6 pm, and then start the number checks that night.

[Sgt12]

No early lines at bio tech or anywhere else.  There will be a conserted effort to disband any large groups that form around Bartels prior to 4:45.

[A-19]

sgt12,

i see from your net-id that you're with CUPD. thanks for the info. i showed up last year early friday morning, and officers and athletics personnell (very politely) asked me to leave and come back at 4, because no lines were permitted to form at all. i came back just before 4pm, and 200 people are waiting by biotech. subsequently, cupd and athletics (to avoid mayhem, i understand) allowed that line to move person-by-person to the official area. so i guess my question is, to what extent will this year's process really differ? as i'm sure you can understand, i don't want to be in a position where i listen to what the people in charge tell me, and then i get taken 200 spots for it.

and how will "stopping groups from disbanding anywhere near bartels before 445" prevent a mad rush at 445 to get to the official area?

i dunno what everyone else thinks, but it would seem to me that you'd have things alot safer if you let people gradually show. and that way, if someone wants to miss class, they're responsible adults and if they want to wait and extra hour or day, i don't see the harm.

any thoughts?

[DeltaOne81]

I'd agree with you, but the issue seems to hinge on the word "responsible". Groups of 10 people show up on Thursday morning and then members leave throughout the next couple days to go to classes (I talked to several people who did that). If you allow this to happen, how do you differentiate between the people coming back from class and the people joining a line with friends who had never been there before (aka: cutting)?



Post Edited (09-06-03 11:44)

[A-19]

it's easy- nobody leaves.
i wouldn't be against showing up thursday afternoon and staying out another night, if i knew that it would save me the stress of wondering what bizarre turn of events will occur which will cost me a spot, or many.

delta, how reliable is this little birdie? seems like we've got some conflicting information here on the board.

mike

[DeltaOne81]

Mike,

Yeah, I agree... but how do you enforce "nobody leaves" - or at least, "if they do, they don't come back". More important, how do you do it all night long without paying several people for 24 hours a day. If you can find a way that won't cost the athletics a good chunk of change, i would agree, but that's the problem. Each year they've said "nobody leaves" and each year people have done it cause they have no way to enforce it. So I say, nobody comes at all is the only reasonable way to go. I hope they have the balls to enforce it this time, but probably not.

Um, pretty reliable I would think. The birdie told me he talked to another birdie who is directly involved (very involved). I guess there could have been crossed wires, misstatements, or lies - I wouldn't mind if that was the case cause I don't want anyone showing up too early due to my above discussion, but we'll see.

-Fred

[French Rage]

Mike, the biotech line last year was an attempt to prevent a mad rush at the official line formation time.  If you just had groups wandering around the Bartel's area until 4:45 and then bolting to the front of the line, the result would be chaotic and possibly dangerous.  At least with the biotech line, there was an orderly procession to the front of the line once the official line formed.  I agree it sucked for the people who arrived right at the line time, but the blame for that falls on the administration, who created the procedure, then the people who started the biotech line.  Those of us in the biotech line we merely trying to get some order for when the official line was created.

[DeltaOne81]

French, understood...

but, if it was you, planning the whole thing, how would you handle it that would work? I simply don't see a way.

-Fred

[French Rage]

I don't know, I'm not proposing a correct way.  I'm just saying people shouldn't criticize the biotech line when it's purpose and result was easing some of the troubles inherent in last year's (and this year's, more or less) procedure.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]I don't know, I'm not proposing a correct way. I'm just saying people shouldn't criticize the biotech line when it's purpose and result was easing some of the troubles inherent in last year's (and this year's, more or less) procedure.[/Q]
I'm just saying people shouldn't criticize the current way if they don't have any idea how to do it better :-}.

It 'eased' the trouble of what to do with people showing up early. It caused trouble however when it came to cutting latter on... rather than a "go to the end of the line" philosophy, you ran the risk of people saying "I've been here for 2 days already, but I had to leave for class"... so it's a trade off of 'a rush at 4:45' versus 'inability to effectively limit cutting all evening long'.