Cornell lacrosse 2024

Started by billhoward, July 20, 2023, 10:49:39 AM

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upprdeck

So a cornell win makes it
Cornell
Princeton
Yale
Penn

Really need to beat Penn then because 2 losses to them and Penn perhaps winning the Ivy puts Cornell back on the bubble

chimpfood

Ivy League Instagram already says that the bracket is locked in and to be played in Ithaca, is this right even if we lose?

Trotsky

Quote from: chimpfoodIvy League Instagram already says that the bracket is locked in and to be played in Ithaca, is this right even if we lose?
The schedule on the CU site already has us playing Princeton at Schoellkopf Friday, May 3 at 8:30pm.

chimpfood

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Quote from: chimpfoodIvy League Instagram already says that the bracket is locked in and to be played in Ithaca, is this right even if we lose?
The schedule on the CU site already has us playing Princeton at Schoellkopf Friday, May 3 at 8:30pm.
Huh, Ivy post says we play Penn at the same time.

billhoward

This is the Ivy standings 4/27 after Princeton beat Penn, before Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Dartmouth.
Ivy Standings the Final Week [this tabulation for H-B and C-D]
TEAM        W  L  4/27 Game    Ivy Wins over (top 4 in bold)
Cornell     4  1  @Dartmouth   [b]Princeton, Yale[/b], Brown, Harvard
Princeton   4  2  @Yale        Harvard, Dartmouth, [b]Penn, Yale[/b]
Yale        4  2  Princeton    Harvard, Brown, [b]Penn[/b], Dartmouth  
Penn        4  2  ----         Brown, Dartmouth, [b]Cornell[/b], Harvard  
Brown**     2  3  @Harvard     Princeton, Dartmouth
Harvard     1  4  Brown
Dartmouth   0  5  Cornell


Assuming Cornell loses to Dartmouth, four teams are 4-2.
Cornell has 2 wins against the other three 4-2 teams, loss only to Penn.
Princeton has 2 wins against the other 4-2 teams but loses H2H against Cornell
Yale has 2 wins against the others but loses H2Hs with Cornell and Princeton
Penn has 1 win against the other top teams but loses H2H

First tiebreaker, if 2 teams tied, it's decided on H2H record. It's 4 ties, so ...
Second tiebreaker, best cumulative record against the others who tied. Cornell, Princeton are 2-1 vs. top 3 opponents, Yale and Penn are 1-2. So Cornell and Princeton are the 1-2 or 2-1 teams.
Then H2H between Cornell and Princeton, Cornell beat the Tigers on the last-second goal. Thus:
1 Cornell
2 Princeton (which might have been out of the ILT with a loss at Yale, and B>H
3 Yale
4 Penn

I think that's how the tiebreaker works. Regardless, the Ivy League page has declared it thus.

mike1960

I don't like this business of assuming we win before we play. It's bad luck.

BearLover

Quote from: upprdeckSo a cornell win makes it
Cornell
Princeton
Yale
Penn

Really need to beat Penn then because 2 losses to them and Penn perhaps winning the Ivy puts Cornell back on the bubble
I don't see how that would put Cornell on the bubble.

chimpfood


billhoward

Cornell opens an early 2-0 lead over Dartmouth.

CU77

Long not playing, Caddigan at attack with Kirst and Goldstein.

billhoward

Most people think it's tempting fate.

But also this: God is on the side of the army with the bigger battalions. Cornell has won the last 11 meetings against Dartmouth. Hasn't lost at Dartmouth since 1997.

mike1960

We need to mark up on those crease attacks. That's where Dartmouth wants to go.

mike1960

You gotta ask: How difficult is it to broadcast the shot clock?

BearLover

Quote from: CU77Long not playing, Caddigan at attack with Kirst and Goldstein.
What's going on with Long?

CU77

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: CU77Long not playing, Caddigan at attack with Kirst and Goldstein.
What's going on with Long?
No public word, AFAIK