"When The Red Come Skating In"

Started by HeafDog, March 18, 2023, 12:03:28 AM

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abmarks

I miss that the chants, like "it's all your fault" are not slow and powerful like they used to be.  now they are done at near techno speed.  Totally kills the echo.


Pretty sure ethe blame for this goes to athletics; when section c went to the townies in the late 80s or whenever it was, there was no longer a cheer starter type in lower c to conduct everything

Trotsky

Quote from: abmarksI miss that the chants, like "it's all your fault" are not slow and powerful like they used to be.  now they are done at near techno speed.  Totally kills the echo.


Pretty sure ethe blame for this goes to athletics; when section c went to the townies in the late 80s or whenever it was, there was no longer a cheer starter type in lower c to conduct everything
The C discontinuity did not help.  But that has been rectified and I am hopeful we'll have a strongly united "student side" again, eventually.

(Gets out cane) "There was a time" when the small section B cadre did not just disappear up its own asshole, and there were cheers that originated throughout the building.  Cheers would start up during play; particularly leather-lunged students would originate something clever and it would catch on, and if it was good enough it would be repeated.  That's how all the traditions began.  The cowbell had a washboard.  Things were less formulaic, and the students were more engaged and active, and not just waiting for the same cues from the same self-appointed leaders every night.

The things that used to occur in the spaces between the action were like a private joke shared among all the Faithful.  "It's the notes he doesn't play." -- Lisa.  While the ePacifiers are here forever, the students have still not figured out how to both use them with their amazing potential but not be swallowed into their solipsism.  They are distracted and they miss what used to be all the fun.  No doubt they are enjoying themselves personally now, whereas the crowd experience was a church congregation. That mutuality is all but gone.  You had to be there to know what I mean.

The experience changes over time, and the Olds are no longer comfortable; that is a given. Iggy Pop said if your parents like your music you aren't doing it right.  Lynah Life finds a way.  The best advice I have is for people who miss the traditions to get a few people together and give restarting them a shot.  Hell, to the students they will be brand new ideas, and maybe they'll catch.  And to today's undergrads (he says to an eLynah user base whose median age is 70): just do your thing and don't give a shit about what we think.  To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

Iceberg

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I miss throwing sieves on the ice after a goal.

And the "hey sieve, xyz called..." chant went on far too long, especially since nobody could even hear what they were saying.  It was just a 20 second pause followed by "You suck!" ad infinitum.

I loved those. They were a staple of the games I went to in the early 2010's. Unfortunately, if you weren't near sections A and B (and I was never a season ticket holder, so very rarely was I in those sections), then you couldn't hear much of it

HeafDog

Quote from: French RageIs this done in a call-and-response manner like it would be done at a soccer game?

It _can_ be, but I figured we'd just let it develop on its own. Meaning, if that's the way we end up doing it, (shrug) I guess that's fine. I think what's more important is to sing it in unison, as a full voiced crowd, SLOWLY, at least one time through. After that it would be okay for the inevitable Alvin and the Chipmunks Effect to take place.

(Singing something like this together -- at least one time through, slowly -- as a crowd would be totally boss.)

But since I hardly ever make it to home games, it's obviously completely out of my control. I'll try to fire it up whenever I do make it to games, but those are usually on the road, so what happens at Lynah... Well, you get the idea.

Dunc

Quote from: HeafDogBut since I hardly ever make it to home games, it's obviously completely out of my control. I'll try to fire it up whenever I do make it to games, but those are usually on the road, so what happens at Lynah... Well, you get the idea.

I'll get it going next season :)
Cornell '24

GO BIG RED

75er

Quote from: Dunc
Quote from: TrotskyThere are wonderful things from the 80s and 90s I miss, just as there are from the 60s and 70s the dirty hippies among us miss.  

This may be better for a different thread, but here is probably fine too

Not necessarily for revival purposes, but more for my own curiosity, what are some of peoples fav traditions from 60s-90s that died off over time

One of my favorite memories from the early 70's was Ozzie Richardson's air horn.

andyw2100

Quote from: Dunc
Quote from: TrotskyThere are wonderful things from the 80s and 90s I miss, just as there are from the 60s and 70s the dirty hippies among us miss.  

This may be better for a different thread, but here is probably fine too

Not necessarily for revival purposes, but more for my own curiosity, what are some of peoples fav traditions from 60s-90s that died off over time

A couple that I enjoyed that aren't coming back:

--"Fight, Maim, Kill" to the tune of "Mary Had a Little Lamb."
--The Black Hole Cheer, followed by total silence after, the only "You Just Suck."

And a new one that needs to die a quick death: just what are the students thinking in starting "Free (Name of Cornell player who just got called for a penalty)" The only way he's getting "free" is if the other team scores. This actually happened once during a "Free O'Leary" cheer. Yet even that wasn't enough to kill this abomination of a cheer.

The Rancor

"ref beats his wife" is one long gone, and good riddance. Sadly, 3 blind mice is gone, with the addition of the fourth official. Long Diiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee always bothered me, but I've lived with it.

JasonN95

Quote from: The Rancor"ref beats his wife" is one long gone, and good riddance. Sadly, 3 blind mice is gone, with the addition of the fourth official. Long Diiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee always bothered me, but I've lived with it.

Combining that cheer with the other distasteful "the ref f*cks sheep" into "the ref beats his sheep" did amuse me.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: The Rancor"ref beats his wife" is one long gone, and good riddance. Sadly, 3 blind mice is gone, with the addition of the fourth official. Long Diiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee always bothered me, but I've lived with it.

Combining that cheer with the other distasteful "the ref f*cks sheep" into "the ref beats his sheep" did amuse me.

His wife beats the ref.

The Rancor

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: The Rancor"ref beats his wife" is one long gone, and good riddance. Sadly, 3 blind mice is gone, with the addition of the fourth official. Long Diiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee always bothered me, but I've lived with it.

Combining that cheer with the other distasteful "the ref f*cks sheep" into "the ref beats his sheep" did amuse me.

My Dad, a 9 year old me, with a bemused look on his face, "Welllll...."

Weder

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: abmarksI miss that the chants, like "it's all your fault" are not slow and powerful like they used to be.  now they are done at near techno speed.  Totally kills the echo.


Pretty sure ethe blame for this goes to athletics; when section c went to the townies in the late 80s or whenever it was, there was no longer a cheer starter type in lower c to conduct everything
The C discontinuity did not help.  But that has been rectified and I am hopeful we'll have a strongly united "student side" again, eventually.

(Gets out cane) "There was a time" when the small section B cadre did not just disappear up its own asshole, and there were cheers that originated throughout the building.  Cheers would start up during play; particularly leather-lunged students would originate something clever and it would catch on, and if it was good enough it would be repeated.  That's how all the traditions began.  The cowbell had a washboard.  Things were less formulaic, and the students were more engaged and active, and not just waiting for the same cues from the same self-appointed leaders every night.

The things that used to occur in the spaces between the action were like a private joke shared among all the Faithful.  "It's the notes he doesn't play." -- Lisa.  While the ePacifiers are here forever, the students have still not figured out how to both use them with their amazing potential but not be swallowed into their solipsism.  They are distracted and they miss what used to be all the fun.  No doubt they are enjoying themselves personally now, whereas the crowd experience was a church congregation. That mutuality is all but gone.  You had to be there to know what I mean.

The experience changes over time, and the Olds are no longer comfortable; that is a given. Iggy Pop said if your parents like your music you aren't doing it right.  Lynah Life finds a way.  The best advice I have is for people who miss the traditions to get a few people together and give restarting them a shot.  Hell, to the students they will be brand new ideas, and maybe they'll catch.  And to today's undergrads (he says to an eLynah user base whose median age is 70): just do your thing and don't give a shit about what we think.  To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

In the mid-90s, when the student sections were sparsely populated at times, there were a few intrepid souls who really struck out on their own and would heckle the hell out of individual opponents. The one that I remember the most was a guy who just laid into UVM's French Connection in their native language. I think it was that type of behavior that really led Schafer to want to crack down on the student sections in his first season, though.
3/8/96

DisplacedCornellian

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: The Rancor"ref beats his wife" is one long gone, and good riddance. Sadly, 3 blind mice is gone, with the addition of the fourth official. Long Diiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee always bothered me, but I've lived with it.

Combining that cheer with the other distasteful "the ref f*cks sheep" into "the ref beats his sheep" did amuse me.

On at least one occasion, that morphed back into "the ref f*cks his wife," which made me chuckle.

CU2007

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007Love the undergrad enthusiasm, but please spend most of your energy saving the traditions COVID ruined, rather than inventing new things. Why doesn't the student section sing after "Gary glitter" 2nd intermission anymore?

Stop.

As the resident Old Curmudgeonly Asshole, I will take care of the Committee for Preservation of the Old Ways, thank you.

Things have always changed over the 40+ seasons I have been a fan, and the 20+ before then.  Some changes are great.  Some are terrible (bend over, jeopardy, the endless masturbatory "you just suck" ePacifier chant).  The crowd eventually separates the wheat from the chaff.  Sometimes it takes a decade.  Sometimes what was once brilliant no longer fits the new spirit of the age.

There are wonderful things from the 80s and 90s I miss, just as there are from the 60s and 70s for the dirty hippies among us.  They had their day and they pass.  No given cheer is the Lynah Faithful.  It's a living Constitution, so long as the students are driving it, and balancing tradition with innovation.  

Don't try to fix it in amber, that will surely kill it.

Panta rei

Fair enough. But bring back the 3rd period singing.

Dunc

HeafDog Legendary voice

Heard you singing decently loud on the ESPN+ broadcast - The announcers acknowledged you but unfortunately thought "when the red come skating in" was the Alma mater :D
Cornell '24

GO BIG RED