Colgate @ Cornell

shafer · February 11, 2023, 02:31:04 PM

We can be the fanbase with the most fearsome reputation or we can be obedient children. We can't have it both ways.

BearLover · February 11, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

Quote from: shaferWe can be the fanbase with the most fearsome reputation or we can be obedient children. We can't have it both ways.

Yes you can. Just throw the objects before the game starts and then not again. In any event, Cornell fans had better figure out how to "have it both ways" or Cornell is going to start being penalized.

Give My Regards · February 11, 2023, 03:17:58 PM

Quote from: BearLoverIt's only a matter of time before the refs call a penalty on Cornell for objects being thrown on the ice, or worse, a player gets injured. The Cornell fans have been acting like drunk animals at these games. I don't have a solution for this issue.

Not necessarily a solution, but the refs ought to be enforcing the rule and calling this. Putting your own team on a PK should be a situation fans want to avoid. It probably won't change things immediately, but at some point you'll have a situation like the Harvard game during the 1994-95 season, which I remember to this day. Cornell fans did the usual heaving of stuff on the ice during the intros, the refs had the warning announced that any further throwing of objects would result in a minor against the home team, then a couple nimrods threw stuff during the first intermission which resulted in a penalty. Harvard scored on the ensuing PP, the first goal in a 2-1 Cornell loss.

The real solution, of course, is for the fans to knock it off. Hopefully they will, as otherwise it's a safe bet that some higher-up will decide that the problem needs to be solved with "more enforcement" and we'll be back to having people tossed out of the arena.

RichH · February 11, 2023, 08:27:18 PM

You can't penalize noise is all I'm saying.

"In my day..." Colgate game was a nothing-burger and we didn't throw anything. Now it's "hey we're entitled to throw shit for these games, so come." Maybe start Tennis balls at Princeton and you could get even more attendance.

RichH · February 11, 2023, 08:39:50 PM

Quote from: billhowardIncredible energy by Cornell against Colgate, especially the second period. They really hustled. By game's end, the shots advantage opened to 29-13 in Cornell's favor. Felt as if this should have been a 4-1 game.

Sam Malinkski rang a shot off the post in the second period, didn't go in, and his points streak ended at 10 games.

This game the power play favored Colgate: both goals to none for Cornell. I suspect the roughness may extend to tonight's game at Colgate.

Re the discussion of whether or not to show replays:
* The fans see more of the game
* If all important replays are on the big (if pixellated) screen, then both coaches can make more intelligent judgments on when to challenge. Don Vaughn perhaps would not have called a timeout after Cornell's quick runup to the 3-0 lead.

It was a 3-1 lead. 3-0 was tonight, but not for long.

chimpfood · February 11, 2023, 10:37:28 PM

The refs are never going to actually give a delay of game for objects on the ice, if they were ever gonna they would've today. There were at least 4-5 stoppages after warnings due to thrown items and no penalty.

upprdeck · February 12, 2023, 08:53:09 AM

Quote from: RichHYou can't penalize noise is all I'm saying.

"In my day..." Colgate game was a nothing-burger and we didn't throw anything. Now it's "hey we're entitled to throw shit for these games, so come." Maybe start Tennis balls at Princeton and you could get even more attendance.

actually you can... in fball they have called penalties on home teams for being too loud.

upprdeck · February 12, 2023, 08:53:52 AM

Quote from: chimpfoodThe refs are never going to actually give a delay of game for objects on the ice, if they were ever gonna they would've today. There were at least 4-5 stoppages after warnings due to thrown items and no penalty.

you must have missed the games where it has happened at cornell.. several over the years i have seen,

BearLover · February 12, 2023, 11:21:44 AM

Quote from: chimpfoodThe refs are never going to actually give a delay of game for objects on the ice, if they were ever gonna they would've today. There were at least 4-5 stoppages after warnings due to thrown items and no penalty.

They called a penalty on the crowd for throwing objects on the ice in the middle of the third period of one of the Harvard games in the early 2010s.

upprdeck · February 12, 2023, 11:28:56 AM

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: chimpfoodThe refs are never going to actually give a delay of game for objects on the ice, if they were ever gonna they would've today. There were at least 4-5 stoppages after warnings due to thrown items and no penalty.
They called a penalty on the crowd for throwing objects on the ice in the middle of the third period of one of the Harvard games in the early 2010s.

yup and one of the games I saw it, it was a Harvard fan who threw it on the ice from section O. Another time it came from the student section. Which could have easily happened this time, especially when you throw it at the team leaving the ice and almost hit the refs and the coaches.

RichH · February 12, 2023, 11:46:25 AM

Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: RichHYou can't penalize noise is all I'm saying.

"In my day..." Colgate game was a nothing-burger and we didn't throw anything. Now it's "hey we're entitled to throw shit for these games, so come." Maybe start Tennis balls at Princeton and you could get even more attendance.

actually you can... in fball they have called penalties on home teams for being too loud.

Actually...who's talking about football here?

upprdeck · February 12, 2023, 01:19:06 PM

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: RichHYou can't penalize noise is all I'm saying.

"In my day..." Colgate game was a nothing-burger and we didn't throw anything. Now it's "hey we're entitled to throw shit for these games, so come." Maybe start Tennis balls at Princeton and you could get even more attendance.

actually you can... in fball they have called penalties on home teams for being too loud.

Actually...who's talking about football here?

same rule applies in hockey.. if the band plays too loud or while play is going on. they dont penalize the away team for that. I wonder if they would when clarkson came into town.

Tcl123 · February 12, 2023, 10:37:55 PM

I wanna know how a water bottle is going to hurt a player wearing all the gear.

Fwiw-I agree shit shouldn't be thrown on the ice after initial entrance by Harvard or a hat trick.

BearLover · February 12, 2023, 10:39:38 PM

Quote from: toddloseI wanna know how a water bottle is going to hurt a player wearing all the gear.

Fwiw-I agree shit shouldn't be thrown on the ice after initial entrance by Harvard or a hat trick.

I'm no physics major, but wouldn't a full (or mostly full) bottle or Dasani hurled from row 14 hit a player in the head with enough force to potentially cause injury?

Tcl123 · February 12, 2023, 10:41:44 PM

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddloseI wanna know how a water bottle is going to hurt a player wearing all the gear.

Fwiw-I agree shit shouldn't be thrown on the ice after initial entrance by Harvard or a hat trick.
I'm no physics major, but wouldn't a full (or mostly full) bottle or Dasani hurled from row 14 hit a player in the head with enough force to potentially cause injury?

Honestly, I don't think it would. Unless it was frozen (and that would be questionable). The guys are out there getting checked into the glass (where their heads are). The goalies take a puck off the helmet on shots pushing 100 mph at times. I don't think a plastic bottle hurled by a fan even comes close to comparing what these guys see "inside" the boards. I could be wrong tho. Just my opinion.