Colgate @ Cornell

Started by scoop85, February 09, 2023, 09:20:14 PM

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Dafatone

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Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

I think, though I'm not sure, that when the broadcast shows replays, they're just showing whatever on the screen in the rink.

marty

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

I think, though I'm not sure, that when the broadcast shows replays, they're just showing whatever on the screen in the rink.

I was at the RPI and Union games.  The scoreboard didn't show the replays of the goals.  There was some Cornell logo of sorts blocking our view in the rink.  I can't testify that all the replays are blocked.  I was only interested in seeing the goals.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

upprdeck

Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful

scoop85

Quote from: upprdeckthe 2 teams got pretty chippy at the end last night. surprised nothing was called after the game other than the slash.

gonna be tougher on the road if we dont get a few of those nice chances to go in and continue to let Colgate hand around.

Quite right. We didn't have much puck luck last night in hitting 3 posts, and Schafer's comments in the game summary shows he wasn't thrilled with our overall game. We did enough last night to pull out the win, but this is Colgate's biggest home game of the year and about the only one that they get a few fans in the stands for, so we'll have to raise our level of play. We especially have to avoid dopey penalties, as Colgate's has some skilled guys who are dangerous on the power play.

BearLover

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Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful
The video board wasn't showing replays at all in the games I caught at Lynah this year. Seemed broken.

marty

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful
The video board wasn't showing replays at all in the games I caught at Lynah this year. Seemed broken.

I don't think broken is the word.  No video replays in the rink seemed to be a decision that agrees with the premise of not giving the opposition a reason to ask for a review.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

upprdeck

replays are fine.. just dont show replays of things that could lead to penalties or goals until after the plays are done.  big hits are nice as well but when a marginal one happens dont let the refs have a reason to go to video review and make it a 5..

coz

Quote from: DafatoneI think, though I'm not sure, that when the broadcast shows replays, they're just showing whatever on the screen in the rink.

It's the opposite actually. The broadcast will show a lot more replays especially of road team goals. The video board just pulls the broadcast feed. So that's entirely on the video board operator for showing that.

Quote from: upprdeckreplays are fine.. just dont show replays of things that could lead to penalties or goals until after the plays are done.  big hits are nice as well but when a marginal one happens dont let the refs have a reason to go to video review and make it a 5..

Okay glad to have that cleared up. I apologize if I came off rude. Sometimes I get frustrated when I see people complaining about the broadcasts and making incorrect assumptions about how the production is being run.

I am all for roasting the athletic department for their decision-making.

BearLover

Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful
The video board wasn't showing replays at all in the games I caught at Lynah this year. Seemed broken.

I don't think broken is the word.  No video replays in the rink seemed to be a decision that agrees with the premise of not giving the opposition a reason to ask for a review.
But I don't think that was the reason/intent behind not showing replays. I believe the replay functionality was broken, because literally zero replays were shown the entire game (whereas during other games ample replays were shown).

marty

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful
The video board wasn't showing replays at all in the games I caught at Lynah this year. Seemed broken.

I don't think broken is the word.  No video replays in the rink seemed to be a decision that agrees with the premise of not giving the opposition a reason to ask for a review.
But I don't think that was the reason/intent behind not showing replays. I believe the replay functionality was broken, because literally zero replays were shown the entire game (whereas during other games ample replays were shown).

I'm not following you because you are not specifying which game(s) you are referring to. I mentioned seeing no replays of goals on the Lynah screen on 2/3 & 2/4.

I then guessed the coaching staff was smart enough to request no replays in the rink during the game.

Which game are you speaking of?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

billhoward

Incredible energy by Cornell against Colgate, especially the second period. They really hustled. By game's end, the shots advantage opened to 29-13 in Cornell's favor. Felt as if this should have been a 4-1 game.

Sam Malinkski rang a shot off the post in the second period, didn't go in, and his points streak ended at 10 games.

This game the power play favored Colgate: both goals to none for Cornell. I suspect the roughness may extend to tonight's game at Colgate.

Re the discussion of whether or not to show replays:
* The fans see more of the game
* If all important replays are on the big (if pixellated) screen, then both coaches can make more intelligent judgments on when to challenge. Don Vaughn perhaps would not have called a timeout after Cornell's quick runup to the 3-0 lead.

JasonN95

Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

Thanks for this long form highlights video. Nice to see the build up and celebration afterwards for the goals.

marty

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Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

Thanks for this long form highlights video. Nice to see the build up and celebration afterwards for the goals.

I'm "channeling" the NCHC format.::burnout::
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: coz
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: martyCheck out the near goal at 12:25 of the highlights video.

I just dont get how dumb athletics is to show these replays in real time during a live game.

Colgate had no TO the only way to get the refs to challenge was to ask, but seeing a replay that shows how close it was makes it much easier to get a ref to do a challange and if a team has a TO they might challenge and then who knows..

the replay showed it hit post and also go down the line under the legs.. It looked like it stayed out live, but you never really know until you see a good replay and why give a team a chance to see one and change its mind on doing it.

Its happend 2-3 times this yr already like that

Be smart show replays on stuff like that for Cornell to help our team not the other team.

If you're talking about whoever is running the video board in the arena then yes, they shouldn't be playing that. But if you're talking about the broadcast? I see you guys on here complain consistently about the broadcast and now you're asking for them to make it worse?

yes in the rink itself..  but they cant even make an edible hot dog at athletics so why would i expect video to make sense.

and added to that. what the heck happened to the replay board in the last couple of weeks.. panels broken, missing, hanging loose, holes in them.. looks awful
The video board wasn't showing replays at all in the games I caught at Lynah this year. Seemed broken.

I don't think broken is the word.  No video replays in the rink seemed to be a decision that agrees with the premise of not giving the opposition a reason to ask for a review.
But I don't think that was the reason/intent behind not showing replays. I believe the replay functionality was broken, because literally zero replays were shown the entire game (whereas during other games ample replays were shown).

I'm not following you because you are not specifying which game(s) you are referring to. I mentioned seeing no replays of goals on the Lynah screen on 2/3 & 2/4.

I then guessed the coaching staff was smart enough to request no replays in the rink during the game.

Which game are you speaking of?
Harvard and Dartmouth

BearLover

Cornell is very fortunate the refs are not calling penalties for fans throwing objects onto the ice. The fish against Harvard and the tubes of toothpaste against Colgate were repeatedly thrown after the game had started, at the beginning/end of periods, following goals, etc. In the Harvard game, a number of objects hit or nearly hit the opposing players on the ice, including a water bottle which nearly hit several
players as Harvard was celebrating its OT winner. The way the water bottle fell to the ice, it looked to be at least somewhat full, i.e. with the potential to cause injury were it to hit a player in the head. Last night against Colgate, someone threw a tube of toothpaste that hit the Colgate goalie in the head during a stoppage in play.

It's only a matter of time before the refs call a penalty on Cornell for objects being thrown on the ice, or worse, a player gets injured. The Cornell fans have been acting like drunk animals at these games. I don't have a solution for this issue.