Ertel to OHL

Started by ithacat, June 18, 2022, 06:21:24 AM

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BearLover

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Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

blackwidow

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Dafatone

Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Thinking Ertel's development, or lack thereof, is going to have any impact on Cornell hockey whatsoever is the most nonsense nonsense that has ever nonsensed.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Thinking Ertel's development, or lack thereof, is going to have any impact on Cornell hockey whatsoever is the most nonsense nonsense that has ever nonsensed.
Now I don't have to say this.
Al DeFlorio '65

BearLover

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Thinking Ertel's development, or lack thereof, is going to have any impact on Cornell hockey whatsoever is the most nonsense nonsense that has ever nonsensed.
Now I don't have to say this.
How Ertel develops is not going to have any impact on Cornell. The only thing that matters has already happened: a promising player decided to bolt from the team after his first season. I'm certainly not going to root for Ertel going forward. I have no reason to. I would most prefer to just forget about him, to be honest.

I hope next year the administration supports a normal school year with no COVID restrictions. Not saying it made the difference here, but I can imagine it's less fun being a student athlete when you can't go to the dining hall with your friends and you're playing in front of a half-empty rink every game.

blackwidow

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Thinking Ertel's development, or lack thereof, is going to have any impact on Cornell hockey whatsoever is the most nonsense nonsense that has ever nonsensed.

I dont think Cornell's recent player development track record makes Cornell look inviting to early to mid round draft picks. Ertel leaving early makes it look only slightly worse in the best case scenario. I am probably freaking out over nothing because Cornell mens hockey to be fair stopped being a premier destination in collegiate hockey a long time ago :'(

BearLover

Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: blackwidowWow, you guys are way too kind. I hope he doesnt have a great career. It would somewhat justify his decision to leave and make Cornell player development look bad.
No.  They're just not bad sports.
Hockey is a zero-sum game. Why would I root for Ertel, who quit on my team, to succeed ahead of some other random kid?

This line of thinking makes much more sense to me. I dont see how Ertel having a good career helps Cornell hockey in anyway than hurting it.

Thinking Ertel's development, or lack thereof, is going to have any impact on Cornell hockey whatsoever is the most nonsense nonsense that has ever nonsensed.

I dont think Cornell's recent player development track record makes Cornell look inviting to early to mid round draft picks. Ertel leaving early makes it look only slightly worse in the best case scenario. I am probably freaking out over nothing because Cornell mens hockey to be fair stopped being a premier destination in collegiate hockey a long time ago :'(
Cornell has a number of higher-end recruits in the pipeline over the next few years. Per the central scouting rankings, Cornell will have at least two players drafted this year. They will not matriculate until 2023, however. Still, it is clear that Cornell is seeing fewer drafted players than at almost any other time in Schafer's tenure. Three on next year's roster is fewer than I can ever remember seeing. Unclear if this is because high-end players are less attracted to Cornell than they used to be, or if alternatively it is a broader recruiting philosophy to go after older, more established junior players rather than take shots on 16-year-olds. Looking at the recruits in the pipeline, though, it looks like the coaching staff is back to taking shots on 16-year-olds.

ugarte

since he's leaving - and wasn't more than a "hmm looks interesting sometimes" player when he was here - i will never think about justin ertel again unless he does something impressive enough to make me wish he stayed.

Swampy

Maybe Ertel is leaving because Cornell's academics were more than he bargained for. Didya ever think of that?

Oh wait. He was is the hotel school. Nevermind.

Dafatone

Quote from: SwampyMaybe Ertel is leaving because Cornell's academics were more than he bargained for. Didya ever think of that?

Oh wait. He was is the hotel school. Nevermind.

It's not like he's leaving for some easier school. It is possible that hotel school was more than he bargained for. After all, we were told in Intro to Political Philosophy that Wines is the most-failed class at Cornell.

Obligatory hat tip to my friend who shouted "lies" when the professor said that.

marty

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: SwampyMaybe Ertel is leaving because Cornell's academics were more than he bargained for. Didya ever think of that?

Oh wait. He was is the hotel school. Nevermind.

It's not like he's leaving for some easier school. It is possible that hotel school was more than he bargained for. After all, we were told in Intro to Political Philosophy that Wines is the most-failed class at Cornell.

Obligatory hat tip to my friend who shouted "lies" when the professor said that.

Hat tip to my freshman floor hotelie acquaintance who is running a small airline.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

billhoward

Quote from: BearLoverScores one goal all season, gets scratched from the playoffs, quits the team. Sounds about right.
Some players don't grow to meet the promise expected of them. I was looking at the stats for Joey Epstein of John's Hopkins, the highest-rated player of the class entering for the 2019 season:

* 2019, 73 points, All-America third team
* 2020, named co-captain, played only 5 games (injured), 10 points
* 2021, 35 points, All-Academic Big Ten
* 2022, 38 points, co-captain third year
* Career, 100-56--156

Sometimes it's injuries, sometimes it's not continuing to develop skills, sometimes it's the challenge of academics, sometimes it's believing you're better than the coach sees you as.

Good luck to Justin in his new path.

billhoward

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: SwampyErtel's story reminds me of Tony Romano's. He also was a hotshot scorer (but 178th in the draft) who left Cornell for the OHL. I don't think he even got a cup of coffee in the NHL. I hope Ertel does.
Ertel could be serving cups of coffee at Starbucks in a few years.
Tough crowd tonight.

Dafatone

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: SwampyMaybe Ertel is leaving because Cornell's academics were more than he bargained for. Didya ever think of that?

Oh wait. He was is the hotel school. Nevermind.

It's not like he's leaving for some easier school. It is possible that hotel school was more than he bargained for. After all, we were told in Intro to Political Philosophy that Wines is the most-failed class at Cornell.

Obligatory hat tip to my friend who shouted "lies" when the professor said that.

Hat tip to my freshman floor hotelie acquaintance who is running a small airline.

My freshman roommate was a fantastically wealthy hotelie. I bet he's doing okay.

David Harding

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: SwampyMaybe Ertel is leaving because Cornell's academics were more than he bargained for. Didya ever think of that?

Oh wait. He was is the hotel school. Nevermind.

It's not like he's leaving for some easier school. It is possible that hotel school was more than he bargained for. After all, we were told in Intro to Political Philosophy that Wines is the most-failed class at Cornell.

Obligatory hat tip to my friend who shouted "lies" when the professor said that.

Hat tip to my freshman floor hotelie acquaintance who is running a small airline.
Hotelies do lots of things.  My Hotelie daughter went on to medical school and now flies on small commercial flights from her Anchorage base to remote villages several times a year to see her patients there.