Cornell football 2022

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Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugartethe screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.
But then two runs?  Against z line that's manhandling ours?
Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugartethe screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.
But then two runs?  Against z line that's manhandling ours?
i agree! 1 good play call on that drive but the fact is that Wang is on an island. No help at all.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugartethe screen was a good call but poorly executed. our OL is outmatched and our punter is horrible. this is rough.
But then two runs?  Against z line that's manhandling ours?
i agree! 1 good play call on that drive but the fact is that Wang is on an island. No help at all.
Right.  Somehow they drove 89 yards on first possession.  Receivers were open.
Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Harvard muffs a punt and Cornell falls on it in the red zone. Wang goes solo and runs it in. Cornell 14-13. Seriously: Wang for 4, Wang for 2, Wang for 6, TD.

Al DeFlorio

Classic situation of Harvard's running game opening up receivers downfield.  Conversely, Cornell can do nothing on the ground.
Al DeFlorio '65

CAS

Great effort by Jameson Wang, but Cornell under head coach Dave Archer is now 15-43 in
the Ivies, & has lost 8 of its last 9 league games

ugarte

Wang is so good. 7 point loss better than expected but yeesh.

blackwidow

I feel bad for Wang. He deserves better than Mr. Archer.

mike1960

Quote from: billhowardOMG: Cornell gets the game's first score, 12 minutes in, long drive after a short Harvard opening possession. Not much run, couple nice third-and-long passes, roughing call gave Cornell life inside the 10. #moralvictory
But need a real victory, too.

OMG Part Deux: Harvard stalls and settles for a field goal. C7-3. Cornell stalls, punts, high snap, blocked, Harvard returns for a TD. Cornell cannot win if it makes unforced major errors; be hard enough to win if Cornell makes zero errors. H10-7 midway into the second.

Second half, Harvard grinds away, mistakes by both sides, Harvard goes up 27-14, Cornell mounts a decent drive with several good catches offsetting some going-nowhere runs. Then a very good Cornell drive gets Cornell a score and PAT to cut it to 27-21 midway through the fourth.

Harvard score, then excellent Cornell drive to close the score to 35-28 with a minute to play, Cornell can't recover the onside kick. This was a quality loss.

Jameson Wang looked pretty beaten up. I wonder if he would have gone back in if Cornell recovered. If his ankle is marginal, maybe he should sit out the Lehigh game, which is winninable, but it's not an Ivy game where Cornell is now 0-2.

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Attendance somewhat less than the homecoming fireworks crowd, Cornell's previous fall event Friday night at Schoellkopf. Kind of sad. (This is Fall Break weekend.)

Is there such a thing as a quality loss?

CAS

Don't think there is a moral victory or a quality loss.  You are what your record says you are.

Ken711

Quote from: blackwidowI feel bad for Wang. He does not deserves better than Mr. Archer.

The whole Cornell football program over the last ten years has deserved better.

billhoward

Quote from: mike1960Is there such a thing as a quality loss?

Sure, why can't there be a quality loss, even without needing to invoke sarcasm font? Pearl Harbor was a quality loss because we lost no aircraft carriers.

Anybody who took Cornell and the 12.5 points offered by sportsbooks came out a winner. Cornell lost to the Ivy co-favorite (with Dartmouuth) by a touchdown and could have lost by twice as much. At no point in the second half except after not recvering the onside kick in the final minute was Cornell out-out-out of the game. Cornell capitalized on opponent mistakes. Cornell had half the penalties Harvard did. Cornell kept the game close despite getting 1.8 yards per rush (65 total). Jameson Wang is the real deal other then when your best rusher and passer is the same person, and then he has to stay healthy.

If we can continue to play at that level, Cornell will have better than the worst record in the league. Probably. We have the ability to take down Columbia, Penn and Brown. (Ivies, 3-4?) Cornell does not have a lot of depth at key positions (see, QB, above).

billhoward

Quote from: blackwidowI feel bad for Wang. He does not deserves better than Mr. Archer.
We all wish Cornell did better the last decade. Jameson Wang did choose to play for Cornell and Archer.

The eLynah 360-Feedback Committee should all decide how good of a season must Cornell have to say, "Let's give the coach another year to see if there's an upward slope?" My should he stay or should he go performance criteria:
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[*] [b]5-5[/b]  +3 wins in 2022 was a big improvement over 2021, looking forward to 2023
[*] [b]4-6[/b]  +2 wins vs. 2021 is okay, ties Archer's best years (2017, 2019)
[*] [b]3-7[/b]  +1 wins vs. 2021 is borderline (stay or go)
[*] [b]2-8[/b]  We've already got the 2 wins parts, this means Cornell loses out, goes 0-7 Ivy, something an Archer team has never done (go)  
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If Cornell does go 3-7 or worse, the decision on retaining the football coach really hinges less on record, more on having a new athletic director on board. Andy Noel announced plans to retire in March, a search committee was supposed to begin work over the summer and if Cornell wants to hire the best coach possible it needs to start the process late November when the season is over.

rss77

Was impressed by Harvard's athletic ability last night.  It seemed every time there was opening a Harvard player filled in the gap.  Per the offensive line struggles I was told before the season that 3 projected starters for the offensive went down with season-ending injuries so the line is a bit jerry-built.  It has lead to the struggles in pass protection where Wang is literally running for his life. Cornell defense on the two 3rd and Long situations had the Harvard receiver in double-coverage each time but credit the Harvard qb on his completions. Think Cornell has the potential to get a 5-5 record but Wang has to stay healthy to reach that mark

billhoward

Fourth week for the Ivies: 4-0 against non-Ivy opponents. One in-conference upset, #4 (pre-season coaches poll) Yale by 3 over #1 (tie) Dartmouth, best effort in a loss Cornell 7-point loss to #1 (tie) Harvard. Every Ivy scored at least 21 points.

[b]Ivy League week 4 (Oct. 7-8 2022)[/b]
(T1) Harvard 35    (8) Cornell 28
(3)  Princeton 23  Lafayette 2
(4)  Yale 24       (T1) Dartmouth 21
(6)  Penn 52       Georgetown 28
(5)  Columbia 28   Wagner 7
(7)  Brown 27      Central Connecticut St. 20