Opponents and Others, 2022-23

[billhoward]

I suspect every Ivy, probably every ECAC team, has Cornell has one of its top three rivals.

Cornell hates Harvard most, regardless of Harvard's competitiveness in the current year, because it's Harvard, some of us didn't get in, Love Story cemented the distate, etcetera. Quinnipiac is No. 2 currently because it's so good, the arena is gorgeous (my opinion) and we dislike fans who bail midway through the second period. Clarkson we admire because they're good a lot of years and imagine how much we'd hate them if we'd lost to them, not won, in the 1970 ECAC and NCAA finals. Although it's been a while.

When any other ECAC team does a senior-memories PR flashback, somebody always says, the most memorable road trip is Cornell.

[blackwidow]

Bye bye Ben

https://twitter.com/btupker_13/status/1524774856218247168?t=EM2d_NG1MyKX5ZewgSntLA&s=19

[RichH]

Max Andreev says he's "not done yet" in a video where he's pulling on a Cornell jersey.

https://twitter.com/cornellmhockey/status/1524846412290215972

[underskill]

Was Andreev looking to leave??

[upprdeck]

it was not a done deal he would be allowed to  come back.

[French Rage]

This would be interesting to do for all the NC$$ teams (or at least the ECAC).

Some guesses (IMO)

Cornell:
1. Harvard
2. Clarkson
3. Quinnipiac

Harvard:
1. Yale
2. Cornell
3. Princeton

Clarkson:
1. SLU
2. Cornell
3. RPI

No BU for Cornell? Or, is this only in-league or frequent opponent?

I would not say BU is a factor over the range of all fans anymore.  It's been 40 years.  But by all means, nobody is DQed.

I think I'd put Colgate in instead of the deerticks.  But YMMV.

Yeah, I think #3 is always fluid. I said Q right now because of the power implications, in the way that it was Yale for a while.  My personal 3 will always be SLU but, again, that's just frozen in amber from the 80s.  There may be people who would stick Union or Princeton there.

It aint Brown, anyway.

Even if Q is good, I don't really, like, care about them.  I don't care how their fans, if they exist, care about beating us.  Given that, I'd have to place Colgate at #3 because at least they derive some pleasure out of beating us, so I want to deprive them of that, in the way they were deprived of joy when college acceptances came and they had to live with the fact that the best they could do was Colgate.

[ursusminor]

I suspect every Ivy, probably every ECAC team, has Cornell has one of its top three rivals.

Cornell was certainly one of RPI's top three rivals when I was in Troy starting in 1964, perhaps even #1, and if not, then #2 after Clarkson. This was in the main due to the perception that Cornell had stolen Ned Harkness. It led to the so-called "Game that Saved RPI Hockey" in December 1968. Now #1 is sUCk which didn't have a team when I was at RPI, and #2 is Clarkson. It's between Cornell and SLU for #3.

BTW, Ben Tupker is going to sUCk.:-D

[Scersk '97]

Even if Q is good, I don't really, like, care about them.  I don't care how their fans, if they exist, care about beating us.  Given that, I'd have to place Colgate at #3 because at least they derive some pleasure out of beating us, so I want to deprive them of that, in the way they were deprived of joy when college acceptances came and they had to live with the fact that the best they could do was Colgate.

There are few comments to which I can just add a +1. This.

[marty]

it was not a done deal he would be allowed to  come back.

I still don't understand why Max had to ask for special dispensation from the Pope(s).

[BearLover]

The biggest rivals to me are the conference opponents who have been winning recently. So, Q, Harvard, and Clarkson, in that order. To most players on the team I would assume the list is approximately the same. To students on campus it's probably Harvard, then some mix of Q, Colgate, Clarkson. Ten years ago the team I most wanted to beat was Yale.

[Trotsky]

That's the dog that saved Charleston.

Well fuck him.

[Trotsky]

The biggest rivals to me are the conference opponents who have been winning recently. So, Q, Harvard, and Clarkson, in that order. To most players on the team I would assume the list is approximately the same. To students on campus it's probably Harvard, then some mix of Q, Colgate, Clarkson. Ten years ago the team I most wanted to beat was Yale.

One pox hovers above all.

[arugula]

Bye bye Ben

https://twitter.com/btupker_13/status/1524774856218247168?t=EM2d_NG1MyKX5ZewgSntLA&s=19

Forgive my ignorance, but to be clear, this means that Ben graduated in three years?  Zach will be back?  I understand Ben was ILR, those would be tough credits to transfer, so he must have graduated.

[Swampy]

Bye bye Ben

https://twitter.com/btupker_13/status/1524774856218247168?t=EM2d_NG1MyKX5ZewgSntLA&s=19

Forgive my ignorance, but to be clear, this means that Ben graduated in three years?  Zach will be back?  I understand Ben was ILR, those would be tough credits to transfer, so he must have graduated.

Does Union offer graduate degrees?

[BearLover]

Bye bye Ben

https://twitter.com/btupker_13/status/1524774856218247168?t=EM2d_NG1MyKX5ZewgSntLA&s=19

Forgive my ignorance, but to be clear, this means that Ben graduated in three years?  Zach will be back?  I understand Ben was ILR, those would be tough credits to transfer, so he must have graduated.

Ben says in the tweet he is graduating. To my knowledge Zach has given no public indication he is going anywhere. The only other Cornell player in the transfer portal is Howe.

We are very fortunate Andreev is coming back. Of course, only in the Ivy League does one need to go through an opaque approval process from a mysterious governing body to exercise his fourth year of eligibility. Other schools across the country will once again be stocked with players exercising their fifth year of eligibility, no questions asked.