NCAA hockey 2022 tournament

Started by billhoward, March 19, 2022, 11:42:29 PM

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Trotsky

Turd sandwich now down just 4-3.

Tcl123

Quote from: TrotskyTurd sandwich now down just 4-3.

Fuck pecknold, it's not happening.

Trotsky

Bah, the Douche gets an eng.

Go Denver.

billhoward

Quote from: IcebergThere are some good defensive teams left but I don't see how Michigan doesn't win it all unless they have a really bad game or suffer a significant injury. Their play is on a wholly different level compared to any other team I've seen in the tournament
Quinnipiac gave it the old college try in the third period, to 4-3, and they have to be thinking about the SHG they gave up late in the second period. The West and Midwest got screwed with the final four in Boston. They'll manage.

BearLover

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: IcebergThere are some good defensive teams left but I don't see how Michigan doesn't win it all unless they have a really bad game or suffer a significant injury. Their play is on a wholly different level compared to any other team I've seen in the tournament
Quinnipiac gave it the old college try in the third period, to 4-3, and they have to be thinking about the SHG they gave up late in the second period. The West and Midwest got screwed with the final four in Boston. They'll manage.
The story of the game was Pecknold pulling the goalie down one goal with four entire minutes remaining. Q was dominating, and Pecknold handed Michigan an easy out to ice the game. It looked like a questionable decision in the moment and Michigan made it look outright stupid by scoring less than 30 seconds later.

Tcl123

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: IcebergThere are some good defensive teams left but I don't see how Michigan doesn't win it all unless they have a really bad game or suffer a significant injury. Their play is on a wholly different level compared to any other team I've seen in the tournament
Quinnipiac gave it the old college try in the third period, to 4-3, and they have to be thinking about the SHG they gave up late in the second period. The West and Midwest got screwed with the final four in Boston. They'll manage.
The story of the game was Pecknold pulling the goalie down one goal with four entire minutes remaining. Q was dominating, and Pecknold handed Michigan an easy out to ice the game. It looked like a questionable decision in the moment and Michigan made it look outright stupid by scoring less than 30 seconds later.

Didn't someone in one of these messages within the last two weeks praise pecknold for pulling the goalie early and getting back in to the game? I thought i saw it. If not, my apologies. (I agree tho, way too early).

I'm too lazy to try to see where it was mentioned.

billhoward

Quote from: toddloseDidn't someone in one of these messages within the last two weeks praise pecknold for pulling the goalie early and getting back in to the game? I thought i saw it. If not, my apologies. (I agree tho, way too early).

I'm too lazy to try to see where it was mentioned.
Well, that was then.
When Q got the PP with what, 6 minutes to play, I did wonder if Pecknold would try for a 6x4 advantage to show the world he was playing by a different set of coaching rules.

cbuckser

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: IcebergThere are some good defensive teams left but I don't see how Michigan doesn't win it all unless they have a really bad game or suffer a significant injury. Their play is on a wholly different level compared to any other team I've seen in the tournament
Quinnipiac gave it the old college try in the third period, to 4-3, and they have to be thinking about the SHG they gave up late in the second period. The West and Midwest got screwed with the final four in Boston. They'll manage.
The story of the game was Pecknold pulling the goalie down one goal with four entire minutes remaining. Q was dominating, and Pecknold handed Michigan an easy out to ice the game. It looked like a questionable decision in the moment and Michigan made it look outright stupid by scoring less than 30 seconds later.

Didn't someone in one of these messages within the last two weeks praise pecknold for pulling the goalie early and getting back in to the game? I thought i saw it. If not, my apologies. (I agree tho, way too early).

I'm too lazy to try to see where it was mentioned.
I was disappointed that the broadcast crew hadn't watched the tape of the ECAC Championship Game and didn't know that Rand Pecknold succeeded with that move last weekend in Lake Placid.
Craig Buckser '94

upprdeck

i think you have to also look at how you are playing and who you are playing.. when you just generated tons of chances 5x5 and you are playing a team that can light you up in a moment too much time.  down 2-3 that late is one thing.  down 1 when you just scored 3 and mich is scrambling no reason  yet.

scoop85

Quote from: upprdecki think you have to also look at how you are playing and who you are playing.. when you just generated tons of chances 5x5 and you are playing a team that can light you up in a moment too much time.  down 2-3 that late is one thing.  down 1 when you just scored 3 and mich is scrambling no reason  yet.

Exactly how I analyzed it

ugarte

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: upprdecki think you have to also look at how you are playing and who you are playing.. when you just generated tons of chances 5x5 and you are playing a team that can light you up in a moment too much time.  down 2-3 that late is one thing.  down 1 when you just scored 3 and mich is scrambling no reason  yet.

Exactly how I analyzed it
Not doubting that you thought this at the time but tbh this is always going to be evaluated based on result. There is no *perfect* time to pull and the stakes are very high. Your odds of scoring against Michigan at even strength in any particular 4 minute period - especially one where Michigan is going to be taking very few risks - are low. As a coach, you kind of have to go with your gut and hope for the best.

billhoward

Hindsight on the part of fans is 20/20.

Duffy Daugherty, football coach of Michigan State in the Eisenhower-to-Nixon era, said (paraphrasing), "On Monday morning, anybody can tell me what play to run that works. On Saturday, I have 25 seconds to get it right, 50 times a game."

Maybe Pecknold was swayed recalling Clarkson get two extra-attacker goals in 3 minutes last December against, ah, Cornell, completing a comeback from 4-0 down.

upprdeck

when you are down multiple goals. you need to make something happen.. When you have not score much all game you need to make something happen.. When you have scored 3 in like 6 Min why do you think you need force the issue.   It may work it may not.. but the more skilled the team you are playing against the more chances they will score and as it turned out they scored 3 times..

Trotsky

It was a good move, it just didn't work out.

dbilmes

Here's what Pecknold said about pulling the goalie, as quoted in New Haven Register:

With 3:57 left, after Michigan goalie Erik Portillo had made a few of his 30 saves in quick succession, Quinnipiac pulled St. Cyr for an extra attacker. Pecknold likes to pull his goalie early, did it even earlier in the ECAC final.
"It works out more than it doesn't for us. We've had a lot of success with it. The guys know it. They want it. They feel confident," Pecknold said.
"We could've scored, and I would look smart right now, but obviously I don't."


Also, since I hadn't watched the game, I didn't realize that he pulled his star goalie Perets after two periods, with Quinnipiac trailing 4-0. Also from the Register:

After allowing three goals only three times in 35 regular-season games, Quinnipiac let in at least three goals four times in six playoff games. Its two games here, including Friday's 5-4 win over St. Cloud State, were the only two times it surrendered four.