Cornellians in 2022 Winter Olympics

Started by dbilmes, February 07, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

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Trotsky

Quote from: TimVA GREAT effort.  You out-Trotskyed Trotsky!  Never saw that done before...  We ugly people deserve equal opportunity.

Can confirm.

Scersk '97

Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.

RichH

Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.

Former Clarkson captain Savannah Harmon scored in the 3rd to pretty much ice the game.

Trotsky

Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Scersk '97

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.

Former Clarkson captain Savannah Harmon scored in the 3rd to pretty much ice the game.

Which proves my point. She's a force all game long. Where's Maddie Mills?

I mean, we, by which I mean we Cornellians, have been watching it for years on the men's side: it's kind of difficult to predict the development of the ability to finish. But the national women's side has a lot of data. I just don't think they put enough snipers on the team. Canada did. After that preliminary round game, I give Canada a distinct advantage in a potential gold-medal game.

I don't care how many shots you put on net—heck, we saw Clarkson toss in a ton of pucks during the Morris years, and QU does that now—if you can't put them in the back of the net. And constant flicks to the front of the net and backdoors on the power play aren't going to cut it against a team that is wise and has a good goalie, like CZE was and had.

We all know that women's hockey goes through the US college funnel. How can there be such a disparity in representation of conferences between the two teams?  Canada looks balanced. On the US side, there's Harmon from Clarkson and that's it for the ECAC. Hunh?

Scersk '97

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Weder

Brianne Jenner had her second hat trick of the Olympics in Canada's 11-0 win over Sweden, and Jillian Saulnier got her first Olympic point. A couple of assists for Micah Zandee-Hart and one for Rebecca Johnston. Jenner's 8 goals overall are tied for the most in the tournament.
3/8/96

Roy 82

Quote from: billhowardBleep. Silver is first loser. Bronze is "I made the podium." But still, very nice.

About Cornell undergrads winning Gold while on the Hill: I was about to say, didn't Dryden backstop Canada's Olympic team his senior year, 1970, took two weeks off and Bob Rule in the nets keeping Cornell hockey unbeaten. You know, the year USA beat Russia for Gold. I think that's how it went. I could be wrong. I'm waiting -- well, not really waiting -- for some obituary of Dryden to cite that 29-0 1970 season. It's part of the legend.

...unless you "lose" to a Russian in which case it is best non-steroidal performance. But seriously, a 15 year-old needs performance enhancing drugs?

But also, I would give my right [insert favorite body part] to just make an Olympic team. A silver medal is phenomenal. Aside from Trotsky, who is too far gone to save, are we really that cynical as to dismiss a silver frickin' medal? B-]

scoop85

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.

blackwidow

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.


China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL

BearLover

Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.


China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.

blackwidow

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.


China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022

Sort by nationality and position.  I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).

BearLover

Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.


China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022

Sort by nationality and position.  I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).
This is just a list of the top point scorers, which doesn't account for the ECAC playing fewer games. If you sort by points per game, Abbruzzese is #7 among Americans and Farrell is #16.

blackwidow

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.

I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?

Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.

I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.

Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.

Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.

Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.


China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022

Sort by nationality and position.  I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).
This is just a list of the top point scorers, which doesn't account for the ECAC playing fewer games. If you sort by points per game, Abbruzzese is #7 among Americans and Farrell is #16.

Yeah I'm accounting for that as well plus the quality of the opponents they went against. I wouldve taken more from the NCHC and Big 10. I wouldnt consider those two Harvard guys as bottom 6 either given their lack of size. Im sure they have credible shots at the NHL and Harvard has been a pipeline to the NHL. I just dont give much credence to their inflated PPG against ECAC opponents. I disagree they are the best qualified for this moment at the Olympics.