Dartmouth Game Thread

[Trotsky]

wow, cornell shootout is atrocious.

We won our first four.

Sure, then what

Regression?

[Iceberg]

It's amazing how different this year's team looks without Andreev. However, there was no reason this game should've been close. Teams seem to have a book on Cornell now

[scoop85]

It's amazing how different this year's team looks without Andreev. However, there was no reason this game should've been close. Teams seem to have a book on Cornell now

Agreed that the team misses what Andreev brings. But I think Dartmouth's book tonight was "let's sit back, the Cornell guys will fall down repeatedly for no apparent reason, and when they shoot they'll either miss the net or put it into Stevenson's breadbasket."

[arugula]

Riddle me this.  At 11:30 pm after all the games were final, we were 21 in PWR. Now we're 19. Thoughts?

[Trotsky]

It's amazing how different this year's team looks without Andreev. However, there was no reason this game should've been close. Teams seem to have a book on Cornell now

Shots on Goal, 32-13
Faceoffs, 40-20

I'd say we win that game outright 85% of the time.

[upprdeck]

hurts to lose a game where you basically allow 10 shots on goal.

We tied.

you think they kids think  they tied

[Scersk '97]

Sure, but I can deal with the scoreboard. I don't like watching Dartmouth dump guys left and right without repercussions.

It certainly did seem Dartmouth was taking an inordinate number of runs at Stienburg. Either they were trying to reinjure him or he's just the kind of player that inspires that kind of attention. Probably a little of both. They took penalties; there could have been more.

So, as was said above, Cashman Dartmouth is so very similar to Gaudet Dartmouth.

[Trotsky]

So, as was said above, Cashman Dartmouth is so very similar to Gaudet Dartmouth.

It's going to take more to convince.  Cashman was one of my all-time favorite opponents even though he played for Queef.

[Scersk '97]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Now we know what he actually said. If he is in fact boosted, he seems to be having a rougher time of it than the other boosted people who've gotten infected since Omicron came on the scene.

I don't want to speculate too much, but it's entirely possible he picked up Delta instead of Omicron, considering the timing, direction of travel, and seemingly more difficult road with COVID. The only places where Omicron is starting to loosen up definitively are around the initial outbreak centers in sufficiently vaccinated areas, i.e., Washington DC and Maryland, the NYC area, and, curiously, Cleveland. So, considering how waves spread, North Dakota seems like one of the last places Omicron would have made it to. According to the NYTimes page for North Dakota, their Omicron spike started around 12/28/21; for Arizona, their spike started around the same time.

That all being said, OSC (ongoing symptomatic COVID) is diagnosed at four weeks and post-COVID-19 syndrome ("long hauling," informally) at twelve weeks, so Schafer is still within the parameters for an other than asymptomatic or mild case of normal old COVID.

I'm sure he feels like crap or he'd be behind the bench. More than a speedy recovery, I hope he makes a full one.

[Trotsky]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Now we know what he actually said. If he is in fact boosted, he seems to be having a rougher time of it than the other boosted people who've gotten infected since Omicron came on the scene.

I don't want to speculate too much, but it's entirely possible he picked up Delta instead of Omicron, considering the timing, direction of travel, and seemingly more difficult road with COVID. The only places where Omicron is starting to loosen up definitively are around the initial outbreak centers in sufficiently vaccinated areas, i.e., Washington DC and Maryland, the NYC area, and, curiously, Cleveland. So, considering how waves spread, North Dakota seems like one of the last places Omicron would have made it to. According to the NYTimes page for North Dakota, their Omicron spike started around 12/28/21; for Arizona, their spike started around the same time.

That all being said, OSC (ongoing symptomatic COVID) is diagnosed at four weeks and post-COVID-19 syndrome ("long hauling," informally) at twelve weeks, so Schafer is still within the parameters for an other than asymptomatic or mild case of normal old COVID.

I'm sure he feels like crap or he'd be behind the bench. More than a speedy recovery, I hope he makes a full one.

Thank you for that informative post, Scersk.  It's worrisome because we have no additional information about whether he's isolating (nor are we entitled to any obviously) so people tend to fear the worst.

[scoop85]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Now we know what he actually said. If he is in fact boosted, he seems to be having a rougher time of it than the other boosted people who've gotten infected since Omicron came on the scene.

I don't want to speculate too much, but it's entirely possible he picked up Delta instead of Omicron, considering the timing, direction of travel, and seemingly more difficult road with COVID. The only places where Omicron is starting to loosen up definitively are around the initial outbreak centers in sufficiently vaccinated areas, i.e., Washington DC and Maryland, the NYC area, and, curiously, Cleveland. So, considering how waves spread, North Dakota seems like one of the last places Omicron would have made it to. According to the NYTimes page for North Dakota, their Omicron spike started around 12/28/21; for Arizona, their spike started around the same time.

That all being said, OSC (ongoing symptomatic COVID) is diagnosed at four weeks and post-COVID-19 syndrome ("long hauling," informally) at twelve weeks, so Schafer is still within the parameters for an other than asymptomatic or mild case of normal old COVID.

I'm sure he feels like crap or he'd be behind the bench. More than a speedy recovery, I hope he makes a full one.

Nicely stated. I may well have incorrectly assumed he got Omicron rather than Delta. I too hope he makes a full recovery, regardless of the time table.

[Scersk '97]

Thank you for that informative post, Scersk.  It's worrisome because we have no additional information about whether he's isolating (nor are we entitled to any obviously) so people tend to fear the worst.

Just want to say, I am not an epidemiologist (IANE, I guess), but I do love me some COVID stats.

Anecdotally, I have heard how people who are symptomatic can have rather crazy short- and long-term symptoms outside of the normal battery, including all the stuff that would make it impossible to coach for a while, like extreme fatigue, joint pain, and—the kicker—vertigo. Most of this stuff does clear up, but it can be a thing and a half.

[Jim Hyla]

Thank you for that informative post, Scersk.  It's worrisome because we have no additional information about whether he's isolating (nor are we entitled to any obviously) so people tend to fear the worst.

Just want to say, I am not an epidemiologist (IANE, I guess), but I do love me some COVID stats.

Anecdotally, I have heard how people who are symptomatic can have rather crazy short- and long-term symptoms outside of the normal battery, including all the stuff that would make it impossible to coach for a while, like extreme fatigue, joint pain, and—the kicker—vertigo. Most of this stuff does clear up, but it can be a thing and a half.

Exactly, remember a small % of patients that are so severe as to need hospitalization are vaccinated.

I certainly don't know any of his medical history, but he could easily have some chronic disease, which could make infection worse.

Regardless of his current sickness, almost for certain he'll recover enough to coach again. However, my concern is that this might be enough to convince him to retire.

He has talked about how the grind of coaching can get to you. Hopefully his love of his profession will overcome any doubts.

Anyway, as a reminder, I lost yesterday. (I probably posted the game thread too early. That's why they lost.) So someone else needs to take over.

[jtwcornell91]

Shootouts are by definition a clown show, as is overtime. I hate this anti-climactic crap.

They've managed to take what used to be the most exciting part of the game--overtime--and make it boring and annoying for those of us who know what's going on.  By the time a game gets to OT, they're only playing for 1/3 of the value of the game in the standings and 10% of the value in the NCAA's increasingly wacky bookkeeping.  I suppose for the uninitiated it may be the opposite, and those are the fans they're chasing.

[jtwcornell91]

hurts to lose a game where you basically allow 10 shots on goal.

We tied.

I don't see the point in pretending there's a difference between losing in OT and in a shootout.  They're exactly the same in the league standings (unless they affect tiebreakers, which the ECAC has still not given a straight answer about AFAIK), and the difference in the NCAA's accounting is miniscule.  Just letting a game to go to OT is basically giving up a tie (or worse, if it's at home).

I see why the IIHF did this, since they used to only have overtime in knockout games anyway, but it's unbelievably stupid to have adopted it in college.