2022-01-21 Princeton

Started by Trotsky, January 21, 2022, 06:29:13 PM

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Swampy

I couldn't believe how many pucks we didn't handle. This was a very un-Cornell game. Princeton was opportunistic, but our unforced sloppy play is why we lost.

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe were thinking this could be a 1W 1L weekend. Better the L is today.
That isn't true for PWR.
Going down 3-0 to a Princeton team on a nine-game losing streak (okay, losing by a lesser margin), it's the optics that are harmful.

As opposed to beating P handily Friday, letting Q go up 3-0 Saturday, battling back to lose by only 5-4, that's understandable.

Our comeback in the third period gives Cornell a lift heading into Saturday. And Q was bloodied Friday in that Colgate scored on them. 5-1 Q.

Looking a long way ahead to March and Cornell making it to Lake Placid, it would be nice to avoid Q until the title game.
Cornell looked exhausted by the end of the game. Tomorrow could be ugly.

Exhausted but we were playing some of our best hockey???
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: TrotskyIthaca low tonight: -5 F.

Which would explain in part the pathetic crowd.
The crowd is pathetic mostly because Cornell banned fans from purchasing tickets with no prior warning.

I disagree. There was a good crowd on the townie side, but students are remote till 2/4. So don't expect many tomorrow and maybe even next weekend. I suspect some may come back for the Harvard game. All you need to see was the small band to realize that students were not in Ithaca
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

David Harding

Quote from: billhowardMeanwhile, more of Collegetown being bulldozed. The entire block on College Ave. between Catherine and Cook streets. Wonder how many will be subsidized units?
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Subsidized?  Ha!  At least it'll take a little bit of pressure off the local housing market.  https://ithacavoice.com/2021/09/plans-submitted-for-catherine-commons-collegetown-development/

ugarte

absolute nightmare of a result. do feel good about next year though, which is a very weird feeling. they're close but they're not likely to get there this year. I'll take a bid, but even that will feel like gravy.

Dafatone

Quote from: ugarteabsolute nightmare of a result. do feel good about next year though, which is a very weird feeling. they're close but they're not likely to get there this year. I'll take a bid, but even that will feel like gravy.

They're talented but unexperienced. High highs and low lows. Given the year off, I'm all for it.

Dafatone

Quote from: ugarteabsolute nightmare of a result. do feel good about next year though, which is a very weird feeling. they're close but they're not likely to get there this year. I'll take a bid, but even that will feel like gravy.

They're talented but unexperienced. High highs and low lows. Given the year off, I'm all for it.

BearLover

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe were thinking this could be a 1W 1L weekend. Better the L is today.
That isn't true for PWR.
Going down 3-0 to a Princeton team on a nine-game losing streak (okay, losing by a lesser margin), it's the optics that are harmful.

As opposed to beating P handily Friday, letting Q go up 3-0 Saturday, battling back to lose by only 5-4, that's understandable.

Our comeback in the third period gives Cornell a lift heading into Saturday. And Q was bloodied Friday in that Colgate scored on them. 5-1 Q.

Looking a long way ahead to March and Cornell making it to Lake Placid, it would be nice to avoid Q until the title game.
Cornell looked exhausted by the end of the game. Tomorrow could be ugly.

Exhausted but we were playing some of our best hockey???
I dunno, the goals started going in but the team wasn't getting after pucks with much energy in the finals minutes. Check out the sequence that led to the fourth Princeton goal. The top lines were getting crazy ice time and they were gassed.

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe were thinking this could be a 1W 1L weekend. Better the L is today.
That isn't true for PWR.
Going down 3-0 to a Princeton team on a nine-game losing streak (okay, losing by a lesser margin), it's the optics that are harmful.

As opposed to beating P handily Friday, letting Q go up 3-0 Saturday, battling back to lose by only 5-4, that's understandable.

Our comeback in the third period gives Cornell a lift heading into Saturday. And Q was bloodied Friday in that Colgate scored on them. 5-1 Q.

Looking a long way ahead to March and Cornell making it to Lake Placid, it would be nice to avoid Q until the title game.
Cornell looked exhausted by the end of the game. Tomorrow could be ugly.

Exhausted but we were playing some of our best hockey???
I dunno, the goals started going in but the team wasn't getting after pucks with much energy in the finals minutes. Check out the sequence that led to the fourth Princeton goal. The top lines were getting crazy ice time and they were gassed.

But if they had played like that from the beginning, they would have won and would have been so far ahead that they could have coasted at the end.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: SwampyI couldn't believe how many pucks we didn't handle. This was a very un-Cornell game. Princeton was opportunistic, but our unforced sloppy play is why we lost.
This was also my takeaway.

nshapiro

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Quote from: billhowardWe were thinking this could be a 1W 1L weekend. Better the L is today.
That isn't true for PWR.
Could you explain that please - is it because of the clause that prevents a team's RPI suffering if it beats a bad team?

Otherwise, I would not think it would matter much, since RPI has three criteria:

A team's own winning percentage (25%) - Cornell's winning percentage would be unaffected
The average of the team's opponents' winning percentages (21%) - I guess the boost to Princeton's winning% is less that the hit to Q's - is this where it matters?
The average of the team's opponents opponents' winning percentages (54%) - I can't believe this is significantly impacted by swapping the wins.

And in this case, a loss to Q will flip the NoDak pairwise comparison.
When Section D was the place to be

ice

Very uneven night.  Some guys looked tired.  I hope everyone is healthy.  Glad to see two EA goals.

ice

Quote from: Scersk '97One uncalled crosscheck from behind and one deflection.

The hit from behind before the goal looked like a penalty to me.

upprdeck

There were multiple stretches of domination.. But then we had so many wayward passes or pucks bounce that led to no shots on goal. The few times Prince actually had any kind of offense led to a few solid chances.  

Too many times we are passing to an area and not to a person, turns simple plays into recovery mode..

Trotsky

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe were thinking this could be a 1W 1L weekend. Better the L is today.
That isn't true for PWR.
Could you explain that please - is it because of the clause that prevents a team's RPI suffering if it beats a bad team?

Otherwise, I would not think it would matter much, since RPI has three criteria:

A team's own winning percentage (25%) - Cornell's winning percentage would be unaffected
The average of the team's opponents' winning percentages (21%) - I guess the boost to Princeton's winning% is less that the hit to Q's - is this where it matters?
The average of the team's opponents opponents' winning percentages (54%) - I can't believe this is significantly impacted by swapping the wins.

And in this case, a loss to Q will flip the NoDak pairwise comparison.

I am slavishly repeating what I have heard.  My intuition is they should be exactly the same impact provided we play both teams the same number of times.

I guess it is arguably more likely that by the end of Placid we will have played Q more.