Recruits 2023 and beyond

Started by scoop85, December 21, 2021, 06:39:21 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverI think the academic rigor thing is kind of BS, BTW—getting a 3.0 in AEM isn't that hard when half the team is taking the same class.
You have to show up for class and remain conscious.  For a lot of those guys, that is too tough an ask.

upprdeck

you still have to be able to get into the school..  tons of kids we have wanted cant get accepted and end up elsewhere

underskill

I assume it's more admission issues as opposed to academic issues once they're admitted.

upprdeck

we dont lose many kids once they are into the school. lots of help with that keeping the kid afloat

Trotsky

Quote from: underskillI assume it's more admission issues as opposed to academic issues once they're admitted.

Perhaps they don't have academic issues because Day Hall maintains standards*.

* Unless you can afford tutors to physically carry you into and through the school and on to your reserved chair at their firm.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Redpucks1!Tomorrow is a big day on the college hockey recruiting calendar - 8/1 is the first day that '07 birth years can commit.  (First day they could be contacted by schools was 1/1/23).  I have no inside connection to Cornell Hockey, just a fan, but I'm really hoping they are in on these 3 players.  In no particular order they are:

1.  Cooper Dennis - Ithaca, NY!!  On the small side but, who cares, the guy can score.  Plays for the Bishop Kearney Selects and has lit it up at each level.  Some are saying he has the best shot in his age group and have heard that he should have made the USNTDP U17's but did not.

2.  William Moore - NTDP U17 team for the 2023-'24 season.  Elite Prospects lists him as hailing from Mississauga, Ontario but the USA Hockey U17 roster lists him as being from Ithaca.  (Not certain but think his father may be a Cornell professor so that may be the reason behind listing Ithaca as his hometown).

3.  Aidan Lane - Will be playing for St. Andrew's College this season and obviously Cornell has had tremendous success recruiting there.

These players are all extremely high end and therefore it may be a long shot getting any of them since they will all be heavily recruited by the typical college hockey powers.  Really tough when you have the built-in recruiting disadvantages that Cornell has; fewer games, lack of scholarships, stringent admissions standards and extremely challenging academics.  CU does however seem to have a connection with these players through Ithaca or St. Andrew's College so who knows?  Let's Go Red!!!
https://x.com/puckpreps/status/1718675828928635194?s=46

Sad. Cornell never gets the blue-chippers, even when they're literally from Ithaca.

I like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.

pfibiger

Quote from: Redpucks1!2.  William Moore - NTDP U17 team for the 2023-'24 season.  Elite Prospects lists him as hailing from Mississauga, Ontario but the USA Hockey U17 roster lists him as being from Ithaca.  (Not certain but think his father may be a Cornell professor so that may be the reason behind listing Ithaca as his hometown).

Looks like his grandfather was a Cornell professor and his father is an alum:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/practice-got-william-moore-to-carnegie-hall-and-to-the-top-of-the-ohl-draft/article_a5a71e18-eb19-5141-9383-58b4723553b0.amp.html
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

Swampy

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: underskillI assume it's more admission issues as opposed to academic issues once they're admitted.

Perhaps they don't have academic issues because Day Hall maintains standards*.

* Unless you can afford tutors to physically carry you into and through the school and on to your reserved chair at their firm.

Hard to imagine Moore couldn't get into Cornell. Besides being a top hockey prospect, he won the "Little Mozarts International Competition" and played Chopin at Carnegie Hall. With Grandpa a Cornell Prof & dad a Cornellian & finance broker, it's highly unlikely that he doesn't have the academic chops to cut it at Cornell [cite recent New York Times article about correlation between family income & SAT scores].

More likely Moore's reasons for choosing Michigan include:
  • Athletic scholarship vs full-tuition at Cornell because his "need" is zero.
  • Ann Arbor is further from home
  • A college that combines reasonably good education and outstanding infrastructure for professional athletics is more attractive than one that combines outstanding education with reasonably good infrastructure for collegiate athletics, especially for a player who's confident of playing pro hockey.
  • USNTDP is based in Ann Arbor, and therefore he's been extra heavily recruited by Michigan, and several of his teammate friends are going there.

scoop85

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: underskillI assume it's more admission issues as opposed to academic issues once they're admitted.

Perhaps they don't have academic issues because Day Hall maintains standards*.

* Unless you can afford tutors to physically carry you into and through the school and on to your reserved chair at their firm.

Hard to imagine Moore couldn't get into Cornell. Besides being a top hockey prospect, he won the "Little Mozarts International Competition" and played Chopin at Carnegie Hall. With Grandpa a Cornell Prof & dad a Cornellian & finance broker, it's highly unlikely that he doesn't have the academic chops to cut it at Cornell [cite recent New York Times article about correlation between family income & SAT scores].

More likely Moore's reasons for choosing Michigan include:
  • Athletic scholarship vs full-tuition at Cornell because his "need" is zero.
  • Ann Arbor is further from home
  • A college that combines reasonably good education and outstanding infrastructure for professional athletics is more attractive than one that combines outstanding education with reasonably good infrastructure for collegiate athletics, especially for a player who's confident of playing pro hockey.
  • USNTDP is based in Ann Arbor, and therefore he's been extra heavily recruited by Michigan, and several of his teammate friends are going there.

While perhaps not quite at Cornell's level academically, a Michigan undergraduate education is more than "reasonably good."

BearLover

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: underskillI assume it's more admission issues as opposed to academic issues once they're admitted.

Perhaps they don't have academic issues because Day Hall maintains standards*.

* Unless you can afford tutors to physically carry you into and through the school and on to your reserved chair at their firm.

Hard to imagine Moore couldn't get into Cornell. Besides being a top hockey prospect, he won the "Little Mozarts International Competition" and played Chopin at Carnegie Hall. With Grandpa a Cornell Prof & dad a Cornellian & finance broker, it's highly unlikely that he doesn't have the academic chops to cut it at Cornell [cite recent New York Times article about correlation between family income & SAT scores].

More likely Moore's reasons for choosing Michigan include:
  • Athletic scholarship vs full-tuition at Cornell because his "need" is zero.
  • Ann Arbor is further from home
  • A college that combines reasonably good education and outstanding infrastructure for professional athletics is more attractive than one that combines outstanding education with reasonably good infrastructure for collegiate athletics, especially for a player who's confident of playing pro hockey.
  • USNTDP is based in Ann Arbor, and therefore he's been extra heavily recruited by Michigan, and several of his teammate friends are going there.
Cooper Dennis, rather than William Moore, committed to Michigan. Moore is still to my knowledge uncommitted. Both were born in Ithaca. Moore has the family connection to Cornell. Dennis appears to have spent his entire youth in Ithaca, while Moore seems to have moved to Toronto at some point.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Redpucks1!Tomorrow is a big day on the college hockey recruiting calendar - 8/1 is the first day that '07 birth years can commit.  (First day they could be contacted by schools was 1/1/23).  I have no inside connection to Cornell Hockey, just a fan, but I'm really hoping they are in on these 3 players.  In no particular order they are:

1.  Cooper Dennis - Ithaca, NY!!  On the small side but, who cares, the guy can score.  Plays for the Bishop Kearney Selects and has lit it up at each level.  Some are saying he has the best shot in his age group and have heard that he should have made the USNTDP U17's but did not.

2.  William Moore - NTDP U17 team for the 2023-'24 season.  Elite Prospects lists him as hailing from Mississauga, Ontario but the USA Hockey U17 roster lists him as being from Ithaca.  (Not certain but think his father may be a Cornell professor so that may be the reason behind listing Ithaca as his hometown).

3.  Aidan Lane - Will be playing for St. Andrew's College this season and obviously Cornell has had tremendous success recruiting there.

These players are all extremely high end and therefore it may be a long shot getting any of them since they will all be heavily recruited by the typical college hockey powers.  Really tough when you have the built-in recruiting disadvantages that Cornell has; fewer games, lack of scholarships, stringent admissions standards and extremely challenging academics.  CU does however seem to have a connection with these players through Ithaca or St. Andrew's College so who knows?  Let's Go Red!!!
https://x.com/puckpreps/status/1718675828928635194?s=46

Sad. Cornell never gets the blue-chippers, even when they're literally from Ithaca.

I like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.
Felt that way about New Haven.
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Redpucks1!Tomorrow is a big day on the college hockey recruiting calendar - 8/1 is the first day that '07 birth years can commit.  (First day they could be contacted by schools was 1/1/23).  I have no inside connection to Cornell Hockey, just a fan, but I'm really hoping they are in on these 3 players.  In no particular order they are:

1.  Cooper Dennis - Ithaca, NY!!  On the small side but, who cares, the guy can score.  Plays for the Bishop Kearney Selects and has lit it up at each level.  Some are saying he has the best shot in his age group and have heard that he should have made the USNTDP U17's but did not.

2.  William Moore - NTDP U17 team for the 2023-'24 season.  Elite Prospects lists him as hailing from Mississauga, Ontario but the USA Hockey U17 roster lists him as being from Ithaca.  (Not certain but think his father may be a Cornell professor so that may be the reason behind listing Ithaca as his hometown).

3.  Aidan Lane - Will be playing for St. Andrew's College this season and obviously Cornell has had tremendous success recruiting there.

These players are all extremely high end and therefore it may be a long shot getting any of them since they will all be heavily recruited by the typical college hockey powers.  Really tough when you have the built-in recruiting disadvantages that Cornell has; fewer games, lack of scholarships, stringent admissions standards and extremely challenging academics.  CU does however seem to have a connection with these players through Ithaca or St. Andrew's College so who knows?  Let's Go Red!!!
https://x.com/puckpreps/status/1718675828928635194?s=46

Sad. Cornell never gets the blue-chippers, even when they're literally from Ithaca.

I like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.
Felt that way about New Haven.

As an potential engineer I think my Mom had brainwashed me - I looked forward to going AWAY to college.  I never applied to  RPI. (Safety school was Lehigh.)
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

David Harding

QuoteI like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.

I grew up in Ithaca.  I like Ithaca.  I attended Cornell for 10 years (12 if you count nursery school).

ugarte

Quote from: David Harding
QuoteI like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.

I grew up in Ithaca.  I like Ithaca.  I attended Cornell for 10 years (12 if you count nursery school).
it's less about the town than the fact that many 18 year olds want to move away from wherever they are from

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: David Harding
QuoteI like Ithaca.

If I grew up in Ithaca, Ithaca would be the last place I'd go to college.

I grew up in Ithaca.  I like Ithaca.  I attended Cornell for 10 years (12 if you count nursery school).
it's less about the town than the fact that many 18 year olds want to move away from wherever they are from
Nailed it.
Al DeFlorio '65