Recruits 2023 and beyond

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

New nickname Stanley Cup just dropped

Just call him "Lord"

[billhoward]

Cornell had an impressive 5 recruits listed on NHL's final Central Scouring rankings - Hoyt Stanley (#85), Jonathan Castagna (91), Chase Pirtle (189), Ben Robertson (193), & Nick Wolfenberg (212).

I feel the same way every year:

• I have no idea from the stats how good the players will actually be at Cornell
• Harvard will have more draft picks than Cornell and so will Quinnipiac (and virtually every Hockey East and B1G and NCHC team)
• Mike (It's The System) Schafer will probably get more from the players he brings in versus their stats or draft rank

Bring on UMD. Which if you google UMD sports, you wind up with stuff on Maryland.

[BearLover]

Cornell had an impressive 5 recruits listed on NHL's final Central Scouring rankings - Hoyt Stanley (#85), Jonathan Castagna (91), Chase Pirtle (189), Ben Robertson (193), & Nick Wolfenberg (212).

I feel the same way every year:

• I have no idea from the stats how good the players will actually be at Cornell
• Harvard will have more draft picks than Cornell and so will Quinnipiac (and virtually every Hockey East and B1G and NCHC team)
• Mike (It's The System) Schafer will probably get more from the players he brings in versus their stats or draft rank

Bring on UMD. Which if you google UMD sports, you wind up with stuff on Maryland.

Quinnipiac wont have more draft picks than Cornell. They'll have more transfers and fifth-year players though.

[Trotsky]

if you google UMD sports, you wind up with stuff on Maryland.

If you google Cornell, you get Chris.

[upprdeck]

if you google UMD sports, you wind up with stuff on Maryland.

If you google Cornell, you get Chris.

I always liked Lydia Cornell.

[CAS]

Ryan Walsh was just named to the USHL first team

[Redpucks1!]

Chris Heisenberg just switched his college commitment list from 2023 over to 2024.  I'm not sure how accurate he is with the year that recruits will enter school but if his 2024 list is accurate for Cornell then it looks like the roster will be short on numbers next season.  He has Jacob Kraft(F), Ryan Walsh(F), Luke Devlin(F), George Fegaras(D) and Ben Robertson(D)coming this fall.  All other commits are scheduled to come to Ithaca in 2024, 2025 or even 2026.  I assume he is not aware of some others who may be arriving this fall.  Liam Steele(D), Nick Wolfenberg(D)and Charlie Major(F)were originally listed as enrolling this fall according to Heisenberg's 2023 list but now they are shown as coming in the fall of '24 on his new list. If I've counted correctly I believe that leaves CU with just one spare forward and two extra defensemen.  That obviously won't work. Either the Heisenberg list is not accurate or possibly Cornell could be looking to get someone through the transfer portal.  I know that some schools are very dependent on the portal (Q with 5 newcomers coming in and Clarkson with 4) to restock their roster but Cornell doesn't seem to do business that way.  I prefer that but noticed there are some pretty nice players listed on the portal that I would love to see in Carnellian and white!

[ursusminor]

Chris Heisenberg just switched his college commitment list from 2023 over to 2024.  I'm not sure how accurate he is with the year that recruits will enter school but if his 2024 list is accurate for Cornell then it looks like the roster will be short on numbers next season.  He has Jacob Kraft(F), Ryan Walsh(F), Luke Devlin(F), George Fegaras(D) and Ben Robertson(D)coming this fall.  All other commits are scheduled to come to Ithaca in 2024, 2025 or even 2026.  I assume he is not aware of some others who may be arriving this fall.  Liam Steele(D), Nick Wolfenberg(D)and Charlie Major(F)were originally listed as enrolling this fall according to Heisenberg's 2023 list but now they are shown as coming in the fall of '24 on his new list. If I've counted correctly I believe that leaves CU with just one spare forward and two extra defensemen.  That obviously won't work. Either the Heisenberg list is not accurate or possibly Cornell could be looking to get someone through the transfer portal.  I know that some schools are very dependent on the portal (Q with 5 newcomers coming in and Clarkson with 4) to restock their roster but Cornell doesn't seem to do business that way.  I prefer that but noticed there are some pretty nice players listed on the portal that I would love to see in Carnellian and white!

I can't comment about Cornell specifically. Heisenberg is not perfect, but significantly more accurate than other sources which I know about as to arrival year. Things are more unstable than they used to be because of the portal.

[Redpucks1!]

Thanks Ursus.
Is the portal here to stay or is this just a blip due to the pandemic?  
I check Heisenberg daily and also College Hockey Inc's commitment site.  Are there other college hockey recruit websites out there worth monitoring?

[Trotsky]

For those curious but lazy, like me:

College Commitments.  

Heisenberg.  No not that one.  Or that one.

Note: these could both be wrong, as they are not getting through my firewall.

[BearLover]

Chris Heisenberg just switched his college commitment list from 2023 over to 2024.  I'm not sure how accurate he is with the year that recruits will enter school but if his 2024 list is accurate for Cornell then it looks like the roster will be short on numbers next season.  He has Jacob Kraft(F), Ryan Walsh(F), Luke Devlin(F), George Fegaras(D) and Ben Robertson(D)coming this fall.  All other commits are scheduled to come to Ithaca in 2024, 2025 or even 2026.  I assume he is not aware of some others who may be arriving this fall.  Liam Steele(D), Nick Wolfenberg(D)and Charlie Major(F)were originally listed as enrolling this fall according to Heisenberg's 2023 list but now they are shown as coming in the fall of '24 on his new list. If I've counted correctly I believe that leaves CU with just one spare forward and two extra defensemen.  That obviously won't work. Either the Heisenberg list is not accurate or possibly Cornell could be looking to get someone through the transfer portal.  I know that some schools are very dependent on the portal (Q with 5 newcomers coming in and Clarkson with 4) to restock their roster but Cornell doesn't seem to do business that way.  I prefer that but noticed there are some pretty nice players listed on the portal that I would love to see in Carnellian and white!

I can't comment specifically about Cornell specifically. Heisenberg is not perfect, but significantly more accurate than other sources which I know about as to arrival year. Things are more unstable than they used to be because of the portal.

Do you know how Heisenberg determines arrival year? I would assume he just looks at whether a player is committed to a junior program for the following season and, if not, marks them down as matriculating at college next fall. But not all of this is public information, so I'm not sure he can make a determination as to each player via the above process.

[ursusminor]

Chris Heisenberg just switched his college commitment list from 2023 over to 2024.  I'm not sure how accurate he is with the year that recruits will enter school but if his 2024 list is accurate for Cornell then it looks like the roster will be short on numbers next season.  He has Jacob Kraft(F), Ryan Walsh(F), Luke Devlin(F), George Fegaras(D) and Ben Robertson(D)coming this fall.  All other commits are scheduled to come to Ithaca in 2024, 2025 or even 2026.  I assume he is not aware of some others who may be arriving this fall.  Liam Steele(D), Nick Wolfenberg(D)and Charlie Major(F)were originally listed as enrolling this fall according to Heisenberg's 2023 list but now they are shown as coming in the fall of '24 on his new list. If I've counted correctly I believe that leaves CU with just one spare forward and two extra defensemen.  That obviously won't work. Either the Heisenberg list is not accurate or possibly Cornell could be looking to get someone through the transfer portal.  I know that some schools are very dependent on the portal (Q with 5 newcomers coming in and Clarkson with 4) to restock their roster but Cornell doesn't seem to do business that way.  I prefer that but noticed there are some pretty nice players listed on the portal that I would love to see in Carnellian and white!

I can't comment specifically about Cornell specifically. Heisenberg is not perfect, but significantly more accurate than other sources which I know about as to arrival year. Things are more unstable than they used to be because of the portal.

Do you know how Heisenberg determines arrival year? I would assume he just looks at whether a player is committed to a junior program for the following season and, if not, marks them down as matriculating at college next fall. But not all of this is public information, so I'm not sure he can make a determination as to each player via the above process.

I don't know, but I suspect that it is mainly by his birthdate. Sometimes he gets inside information. No one has written it yet: He follows his grandfather and uses The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.:-D

[George64]

I can't comment specifically about Cornell specifically. Heisenberg is not perfect, but significantly more accurate than other sources which I know about as to arrival year. Things are more unstable than they used to be because of the portal.

According to Heisenberg, there's always inherent uncertainty.
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[French Rage]

I can't comment specifically about Cornell specifically. Heisenberg is not perfect, but significantly more accurate than other sources which I know about as to arrival year. Things are more unstable than they used to be because of the portal.

According to Heisenberg, there's always inherent uncertainty.
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Well, the more certain he is about the player's stats, the less certain he is about their arrival year.

[scoop85]

Scott Wheeler of the Athletic, who is IMO a terrific talent evaluator, listed Hoyt Stanley as number 98 in Wheeler's top 100 for the 2023 NHL draft. Here's Wheeler's summary of Stanley:

Stanley, a Cornell commit, was the best under-18 defenceman in the BCHL this season to earn a spot on the league's All-Rookie Team after missing most of last season with a concussion. He's a long, mobile, pro-sized right-shot defenseman with impressive skating technique, an ability to handle and maneuver with the puck on his stick, and a better shot than his four goals this season indicate. He's still a little raw in some areas but I expect him to blossom into a standout college defenseman as an upperclassman. He projects as a two-way puck transporter and I see legitimate NHL potential.