Polls

Started by ugarte, October 11, 2021, 12:34:35 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskyWin in Placid.  Every year.  That is the goal.  The rest takes cares of itself.
Which has been rebranded to a 200x85 rink. If only Douglas Murray had that.
Or Sasha.

billhoward

Slipping from 11th to 16th in one poll, DCU/USCHO. https://www.uscho.com/rankings/

Weren't we like 9-1-1 at one point? Sheesh

BearLover

Quote from: billhowardSlipping from 11th to 16th in one poll, DCU/USCHO. https://www.uscho.com/rankings/

Weren't we like 9-1-1 at one point? Sheesh
6-1-4, which some referred to as 9-1-1.

billhoward

If somebody saw 9-1-1, they should've picked up the phone and said, Mike, get help.


dbilmes

Quote from: billhowardSlipping from 11th to 16th in one poll, DCU/USCHO. https://www.uscho.com/rankings/

Weren't we like 9-1-1 at one point? Sheesh
We're not the only big-name team struggling. With its Beanpot loss last night,BC is now on a 10-game winless streak (0-9-1). And their long-time coach, Jerry York, was Coach of the Year last year.

billhoward

Cornell in the polls week of 2/14/22  https://collegehockeyinc.com/national-polls.php

USCHO      18 was 16 (3 spots back of Clarkson)

USAToday   1 vote received, not in the top 15, last of three Others Receiving Votes.

billhoward

Pretty depressing. Cornell not in the top ten as of 2-22-22. Barely inside the top 20 for the poll that goes 20 teams deep, and still one place behind Clarkson (but way ahead of Harvard, an also ran). The other poll has us as an also-mention, just behind Harvard. Qunnipiac has slipped to fifth. See it here: https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1/uschocom

I also like to tell myself, the team barely in the top 20 that nobody in the top ten would like to play has to be Cornell. Every year, it brings some solace.

upprdeck

I guess being 5-0 against the teams we played in the polls means there is an upside. to get he ncaas we probably need to go 7-1 or 8-0 though.

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckI guess being 5-0 against the teams we played in the polls means there is an upside. to get he ncaas we probably need to go 7-1 or 8-0 though.

Harvard, Clarkson, Quinnipiac; pick any 2.

At this point I think there is an exactly equal chance we'll lose the QF as win in Placid.

upprdeck

the way the team is playing better chance of beating 2 of them than playing 2 lower teams and winning 2 games

billhoward

USCHO poll Feb. 28 has Cornell 18 --> 17 (swapping with Clarkson). Also Quinnipiac 6th (-1) with 1 first place vote, Harvard also-receiving votes. Top Teams are Minnesota State, Minnesota, Denver, ND (Dakota not Dame), Michigan.
https://collegehockeyinc.com/national-polls.php

BearLover

CHN's pairwise probability matrix has been posted. As usual, it assigns higher-ranked teams too high a chance of winning and lower-ranked teams too low a chance. And as usual, I will waste everyone's time complaining about this. This year I will keep it short and instead highlight a few examples to illustrate the aforementioned issue: the matrix gives Q a 54% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. That is to say, they are more likely to win it than the entire rest of the field combined. The matrix also gives Brown, Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton a combined 0.0% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. Not even a 0.1% chance—they quite literally have a 0.0% chance of winning the tournament. Collectively, the bottom 8 seeds have a 2.1% chance of winning the ECAC tournament, according to the matrix.

EDIT: BTW, the matrix gives Cornell a 10% chance to win the ECAC tourney and a 0% chance at an at-large bid.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLoverCHN's pairwise probability matrix has been posted. As usual, it assigns higher-ranked teams too high a chance of winning and lower-ranked teams too low a chance. And as usual, I will waste everyone's time complaining about this. This year I will keep it short and instead highlight a few examples to illustrate the aforementioned issue: the matrix gives Q a 54% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. That is to say, they are more likely to win it than the entire rest of the field combined. The matrix also gives Brown, Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton a combined 0.0% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. Not even a 0.1% chance—they quite literally have a 0.0% chance of winning the tournament. Collectively, the bottom 8 seeds have a 2.1% chance of winning the ECAC tournament, according to the matrix.

EDIT: BTW, the matrix gives Cornell a 10% chance to win the ECAC tourney and a 0% chance at an at-large bid.

Importantly*, they give us a 0.0% chance at an at-large bid. The teams below us all have this field blank. I think this means our chances at an at-large bid are greater than zero but round down to 0.0%.

billhoward

Quote from: BearLoverThe matrix also gives Brown, Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton a combined 0.0% chance of winning the ECAC tournament.
Have them run an analysis where low-ranking BYDP makes the title game and opponent equals Cornell. Odds would change in a heartbeat. Or have we gotten that losing-to-the-losers syndrome behind us?