New indoor campus recreation & sports center

[CAS]

Strongly disagree with the above sentiment.  Expect the proposed recreation center will be used by thousands of students who are not varsity athletes.

[marty]

As the NC$$ implodes and all that sweet sports money starts going to the athletes instead of the schools, I wonder whether the bubble on sports spending will finally burst.

An indoor campus recreation & sports center serves about 2% of the entire student population.  Students would be far better served if everything spent on this kind of stuff went to lowering the cost of tuition, room, and board.

Geez, I was just about to advocate for a light rail line to the new ball field.

[Trotsky]

As the NC$$ implodes and all that sweet sports money starts going to the athletes instead of the schools, I wonder whether the bubble on sports spending will finally burst.

An indoor campus recreation & sports center serves about 2% of the entire student population.  Students would be far better served if everything spent on this kind of stuff went to lowering the cost of tuition, room, and board.

Geez, I was just about to advocate for a light rail line to the new ball field.

Hyperloop or nothing

[upprdeck]

As the NC$$ implodes and all that sweet sports money starts going to the athletes instead of the schools, I wonder whether the bubble on sports spending will finally burst.

An indoor campus recreation & sports center serves about 2% of the entire student population.  Students would be far better served if everything spent on this kind of stuff went to lowering the cost of tuition, room, and board.

since none of the money spent on the IPF is coming from cornell , it indirectly does allow for money to be spent on other things..

[Ken711]

As the NC$$ implodes and all that sweet sports money starts going to the athletes instead of the schools, I wonder whether the bubble on sports spending will finally burst.

An indoor campus recreation & sports center serves about 2% of the entire student population.  Students would be far better served if everything spent on this kind of stuff went to lowering the cost of tuition, room, and board.

since none of the money spent on the IPF is coming from cornell , it indirectly does allow for money to be spent on other things..

Agreed. It will be a great addition to the facilities that students can utilize in addition to the various varsity sport teams.  The eventual site location is less important to me, I'm just happy it's going to be built!

[upprdeck]

after some conversations with people on campus who are pretty well placed when these things get done..

There is a lot of this project not really very well explained to people for something  that has the look of a done deal.

[billhoward]

after some conversations with people on campus who are pretty well placed when these things get done..

There is a lot of this project not really very well explained to people for something  that has the look of a done deal.

Cornell's fear that a hard-hitting analysis by the Ithaca Journal might sway minds ... is likely unfounded.

[Ken711]

Anymore news on this?  I see there is a line item of $5 million of the total $25 million facility cost in the 21-22 Cornell budget.  I assume the $5 million is for initial design work.

[CAS]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

[Ken711]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

That's good news.

[billhoward]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

This could be a transformational facility for Cornell athletics if the facility was covered and had enough room for 1,000-2,500 spectators. Princeton and Harvard have the money to do it Cornell needs it among the Ivies because it has the worst weather for spring sports other than Dartmouth, but Dartmouth doesn't have any nationally competitive spring sports.

[Ken711]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

This could be a transformational facility for Cornell athletics if the facility was covered and had enough room for 1,000-2,500 spectators. Princeton and Harvard have the money to do it Cornell needs it among the Ivies because it has the worst weather for spring sports other than Dartmouth, but Dartmouth doesn't have any nationally competitive spring sports.

I agree that it would be nice to have that additional spectator seating space, however I doubt they have the money for a facility of that greater size. It's not from what I understand they are planning for, it's meant for varsity sports practices and recreational use by the general student population.

[upprdeck]

most of these type buildings have space for a few hundred and lax makes it even harder with a ball gong 100 all over the place to avoid.

[Swampy]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

This could be a transformational facility for Cornell athletics if the facility was covered and had enough room for 1,000-2,500 spectators. Princeton and Harvard have the money to do it Cornell needs it among the Ivies because it has the worst weather for spring sports other than Dartmouth, but Dartmouth doesn't have any nationally competitive spring sports.

I agree that it would be nice to have that additional spectator seating space, however I doubt they have the money for a facility of that greater size. It's not from what I understand they are planning for, it's meant for varsity sports practices and recreational use by the general student population.

I wonder what the marginal cost of adding spectator seating would be, and what additional usage would be necessary to justify the extra expense. Men's & women's lacrosse? Winter, indoor soccer? Track & field? Concerts? Large lecture classes? Indoor Commencement? Winter sport training? Study hall?

It would probably be very difficult to estimate the potential benefit of additional seating far in advance of actual usage. Perhaps a wealthy alum could just gift the additional cost, and then Cornell could experiment with uses.

OTOH, perhaps the building could be designed with adding seating at a later date in mind.

[Ken711]

Cornell has retained an architectural firm which is currently designing the building.  Don't know where the building will be located.

This could be a transformational facility for Cornell athletics if the facility was covered and had enough room for 1,000-2,500 spectators. Princeton and Harvard have the money to do it Cornell needs it among the Ivies because it has the worst weather for spring sports other than Dartmouth, but Dartmouth doesn't have any nationally competitive spring sports.

I agree that it would be nice to have that additional spectator seating space, however I doubt they have the money for a facility of that greater size. It's not from what I understand they are planning for, it's meant for varsity sports practices and recreational use by the general student population.

I wonder what the marginal cost of adding spectator seating would be, and what additional usage would be necessary to justify the extra expense. Men's & women's lacrosse? Winter, indoor soccer? Track & field? Concerts? Large lecture classes? Indoor Commencement? Winter sport training? Study hall?

It would probably be very difficult to estimate the potential benefit of additional seating far in advance of actual usage. Perhaps a wealthy alum could just gift the additional cost, and then Cornell could experiment with uses.

OTOH, perhaps the building could be designed with adding seating at a later date in mind.

Not likely adding more seating space it later.  The footprint of the indoor facility isn't changing.  Look at other indoor practice facilities, even the FBS schools.  There's very little sideline space for spectator seating.  I'm just happy that this project is finally moving forward. The actual site location is less important to me.