Cornell lacrosse 2022

[Swampy]

We need to get out on the shooters. Brown is certainly getting out on our shooters.

The cutter needs to catch and shoot or quick stick. There's no time to cradle. They'll get swarmed by the defense.

We're being hurt by our lack of balance and outside shooting. When one player gets 5 of 8 goals, it's easy for the other team's defense to clog the middle. Also, Petrakis and his wings were much better this game, but when Brown won faceoffs, they initiated a fast break. How many times did Brown score for Cornell to learn that during a fast break you don't leave the opposing team's sniper unmarked and the closest player to the goal?

[CU77]

Sad news: per a knowledgable Cornell poster on the fanlax board, Cornell's legendary lax coach Richie Moran has passed away.

[kingpin248]

Sad news: per a knowledgable Cornell poster on the fanlax board, Cornell's legendary lax coach Richie Moran has passed away.

Confirmed by Cornell Athletics.

[upprdeck]

ahh the days when he used to by the rounds at happy hours downtown like at Plums and such..

[dbilmes]

Richie ranks at the top of the pantheon of Cornell coaches, along with Ned. I was in school during that incredible run from 1975-78, when we used to get more than 10,000 fans at lacrosse games at Schoellkopf and the team got written up in Sports Illustrated. I may have missed out on the glory days of the men's hockey team, but at least I was there for the glory days of lacrosse.

[mike1960]

Lacrosse lost a great one today. I met him only once. He saw a guy on our club team holding a woodie and stopped to say a few kind words. You don't ever forget moments like those.

[billhoward]

Week 11 of polls: Cornell falls six spots from #8 to #14 after loss to Brown. Six Ivies in the top 15. Only Dartmouth on the outside.

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[b]Media poll 4/25/22[/b]
 1.  Maryland 12-0 only unbeaten team
 2.  Georgetown
 3.  Rutgers +2 positions (beat PSU 15-14)
 4.  Virginia
 5.  Brown +9 positions
 6.  Notre Dame
 7.  Princeton -3 lost to Harvard
 8.  Jacksonville
 9.  Yale +1
10.  Ohio State
11.  Duke
12.  Harvard +5
13.  Penn unchanged
14.  Cornell -6
15.  BU
16.  Army
17.  Richmond
18.  Denver
19.  NC
20.  St. Joseph's

RPI is kinder to Cornell. And the Ivy League. We are 2-4-5-8-9-11.
NCAA site RPI rankings:

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 1. Maryland
 2. Princeton
 3. Georgetown
 4. Yale
 5. Penn
 6. Rutgers
 7. Virginia
 8. Brown
 9. Cornell
10. Duke
11. Harvard
12. BU
13. TOSU
14. ND
15. Denver
16. Richmond
17. NC
18. St. Joe
19. Hopkins
20. Utah
Jacksonville, 8 in the polls, is 23 in RPI.

[arugula]

PWR killed hockey, but its sort of equivalent is helping lacrosse.

[billhoward]

PWR killed hockey, but its sort of equivalent is helping lacrosse.

Winning four of four one-goal games was helping us a lot, too. I had to go back to the season's-game page to recall how many it was. What also jumped out at me was: Cornell 17, Harvard 9. Harvard two weeks later beats Princeton by 3, and now we play Princeton.

[Trotsky]

PWR killed hockey

It did?

[arugula]

yes it did.  While the record was as good as some teams, the poor sos and the resulting low PWR doomed the season.

[nshapiro]

I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

[billhoward]

I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

Touché.

Lacrosse had amazing success on the field but not among the lacrosse title voters in the late 1960s.
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Year   Cornell (notes)           College champion          Chosen
1966  12-0 Harkness' 1st year    Navy                      Poll
1967  11-1                       Maryland, Navy, Hopkins   Poll
1968  12-0                       Hopkins                   Poll
1969   8-3 Moran's 1st year      Army, Hopkins             Poll
1970  11-0                       Hopkins, Navy, Virginia   Poll
1971  13-1                       Cornell                   Tournament

[Swampy]

I don't have any fond recollections of Cornell benefiting from the 'smoke filled room' methodology before PWR

Touché.

Lacrosse had amazing success on the field but not among the lacrosse title voters in the late 1960s.
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Year   Cornell (notes)           College champion          Chosen
1966  12-0 Harkness' 1st year    Navy                      Poll
1967  11-1                       Maryland, Navy, Hopkins   Poll
1968  12-0                       Hopkins                   Poll
1969   8-3 Moran's 1st year      Army, Hopkins             Poll
1970  11-0                       Hopkins, Navy, Virginia   Poll
1971  13-1                       Cornell                   Tournament

Wow! Maybe someone should write a book about that (smoke filled room, and so on).

[billhoward]

Richie Moran was amazing. (Probably the only time anyone used Richard was his christening, wedding and now.) A Maryland grad, he turned the tables on southern lacrosse supremacy with that 1971 championship (over Maryland) and two more in the next six years (1976 over Maryland with a 16-13 OT victory (see why first-goal wins in OT isn't such a good idea?)).

He also made the title game three more times, including 1987 and 1988 (1988, beat Brown in OT the final RS game to go to 6-5 and make the tournament, won at UMass and North Carolina, clobbered Virginia in the semis before losing to Syracuse in the finals). He coached nine more years but only one NCAA invite and there were four seasons with four wins or less. Richie left after the 1997 season but he didn't go away, didn't sulk. He was active as a supporter without trying to be the shadow coach. I recall him consoling a couple players on the field after losing to Maryland in the tournament a couple years back. I ran into Richie 4, 5 years ago on Marco Island in the winter, he was cheerful as ever, as outgoing as ever, and he remembered who I was, even though the relationship was the Cornell Sun, not as a player.  

As it turns out, 1970 was Cornell's last hockey championship, and those three lacrosse titles in the followng seven years eased the pain. Some.

Pardon me if you're class of '00 or younger and think, HUGARA (who gives ....). If you're old, it's fun to reminisce. I realize if someone told me auld lang syne stories when I was undergrad, they would have been harking back to the 1920s. Like when Schoellkopf field was brand new. I'm old enough to remember when Marinaro's jersey in the display case was bright red, not the pinkish-red it is today.