Cornell lacrosse 2022

Started by billhoward, June 07, 2021, 09:31:25 PM

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billhoward

Cornell 10-2 hosts Brown lacrosse 7-4 Saturday at noon. A couple weeks ago it seemed Cornell might split the final games, Brown home, Princeton away. Now, after the Army game, is there a chance the last 3 RS games are all not victorious?
[b]Team          Ivy Next game[/b]s [color=#FF0000]
Cornell ..... 3-1[/color] Brown, @ Princeton
Princeton ... 3-1 @ Harvard, hosts Cornell
Yale ........ 3-2 Harvard 4/30
Harvard ..... 2-2 Princeton, @Yale
Brown ....... 2-2 @Cornell, Dartmouth
Penn ........ 2-3 Final game @ Dartmouth Saturday, should finish 3-3, holds H2H tiebreaker vs. Cornell  
Dartmouth ... 0-4


Scores:
Brown 13, Cornell 8
Harvard 19, Princeton 16 (Crimson outscore Tigers 8-4 in the fourth, was a 15-15 tie ~6 mins to play)
Penn at Dartmouth, 3:30 start

nshapiro

Is there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
When Section D was the place to be

mike1960

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Quote from: rss77Cornell defense was worn down by Army's dominance at faceoff X.  Like any game possession of the ball is everything.    We can talk about the Goalie play but Army's offensive players seemed to have time and room on every shot puts too much pressure Ierlan or Brust to make miraculous saves.  Sometimes the faceoff strikes me like having a jump ball after every basket,  It puts such a premium on one specialist to have possession dominance,

I wonder how physically and emotionally drained they were after the Syracuse game. From the jump against Army, our defense looked like they were playing in sand. How many uncontested shots did Army get at 12 yards out? Chayse has had a little trouble with the mid-range shot this year anyway, and then add the possible loss of confidence and you get a super tough day for him.

I can't remember which game it was earlier in the season, but I was incredibly impressed that the Cornell long poles had a stick on the hands of every shooter almost every time. A shooter just can't score if he can't follow through. But lately they've not always gotten out on the shooters, even with the 6 foot long pole, and especially not against Army. Part of the reason may be the zone defense, but I think it's just a question of getting back to fundamentals. They've shown they can do it.

So we went down 7-0 and there was no indication in the first quarter that Cornell was doing to drag itself out of it, but the team played more or less evenly on the scoreboard at least after the first quarter (with some junk time goals). Cornell is still an excellent team that's a little thin at middie. They can still do serious damage in the tournament.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but again I'll mention that the cutting game works when they use it. Long to Coyle is a winning combination. They have the stick skills to make this a devastating part of their game, and it will open up shots on the outside. But instead they camp two guys in front of the crease and rarely throw to them. When they do, the long-poles are well trained to check sticks and make that pass difficult. Teat made a living snapping passes to cutters, and that made the rest of his game even harder to defend. /soapbox

Agree about most things you say, Mike. I'd add the following. (1) Maybe I haven't watched closely enough, but it seems Cornell rarely uses picks to free up cutters. I've noticed Coyle setting picks, but given his size and skills, better results are more likely when he dodges off a pick and gets a feed from Long. (2) There was at least one time in the Army game, probably more, when Piatelli was double-teamed while trying to get to goal. In such instances, the standard remedy is to pass to someone at the back post. But at least once, as I said, I noticed there was nobody there. In fact, I noticed Army, Cuse, and (IIRC) Harvard using this tactic effectively against us, but Cornell rarely (but not never) used it.

I completely agree. I was watching some video of Jeff Teat, and when he played the crease attackmen were much more active about getting open for passes. This season, it seems the crease attack don't really move much, I guess to screen outside shots from the goalie. This has often been very effective, but when the offense becomes predicable or stagnant, maybe they could switch it up to a different set and get the crease attackmen more active and setting off-ball picks.

CU77

Quote from: nshapiroIs there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?

http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php

billhoward

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Quote from: nshapiroIs there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Which site before the Brown game puts Cornell at 8 and Brown at 9.

nshapiro

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Quote from: nshapiroIs there any website that regularly re-calculates RPI, like CHN and USCHO do for hockey?
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Which site before the Brown game puts Cornell at 8 and Brown at 9.
https://lacrossereference.com/stats/rpi-d1-men/ I guess is already updated to include last night, and now has OSU above Brown.  I know these two sites do RPI calculations, but it is not like CHN and USCHO which have updates within minutes of the end of each game.
When Section D was the place to be

mike1960


mike1960

Adler looks like a man among boys out there.

mike1960

Hands free, outside shot from Brown.

Al DeFlorio

Another awful start.  Poor shooting.  No saves.  Turnovers.  Hands-free Brown shots.
Al DeFlorio '65

Al DeFlorio

Brown just plays much much smarter lacrosse.  Cornell impotent on offense.
Al DeFlorio '65

mike1960

We need to get out on the shooters. Brown is certainly getting out on our shooters.

The cutter needs to catch and shoot or quick stick. There's no time to cradle. They'll get swarmed by the defense.

mike1960

Hands free shot for the good guys.

mike1960

Piatelli's last goal looked like a Jeff Teat shot: Not hard but very accurate.

mike1960

Quote from: Al DeFlorioAnother awful start.  Poor shooting.  No saves.  Turnovers.  Hands-free Brown shots.

We just aren't hitting the corners of the square today, Al.