Cornell lacrosse 2022

[ithacat]

So, is it a complete unknown, or will we be bad for a while recovering from the down time?

Probably 2022 a down year but I think we have great coaches and we don't be down forever.

Even without Teat still a lot of talent on the roster. Ivies will be strong as usual.

Would have loved to have picked up Kieb from J-D. Looks like Yale got a good one.

[mike1960]

What are the realistic expectations for the team this spring?

[rss77]

Interesting news coming from the NCAA Convention-Passed a resolution allowing a number of D3 schools playing D1 sports to offer athletic scholarships. RIT in men's and women's ice hockey, Union in men's and women's ice hockey, MIT (!) in rowing and Hobart in men's lacrosse. Restrictions have been put in because athletes on athletic aid at Hobart can only play lacrosse and cannot play at any other sport. Hobart's lacrosse program especially back in its D3 days thrived on dual sports athletes playing both football and lacrosse.

[Swampy]

Interesting news coming from the NCAA Convention-Passed a resolution allowing a number of D3 schools playing D1 sports to offer athletic scholarships. RIT in men's and women's ice hockey, Union in men's and women's ice hockey, MIT (!) in rowing and Hobart in men's lacrosse. Restrictions have been put in because athletes on athletic aid at Hobart can only play lacrosse and cannot play at any other sport. Hobart's lacrosse program especially back in its D3 days thrived on dual sports athletes playing both football and lacrosse.

That's crazy. If a student-athlete wants to play multiple sports, they should be free to do so. Maybe exclude them from the athletic scholarship pool and make the compete for need-based and academic-merit-based financial aid.

[billhoward]

That's crazy. If a student-athlete wants to play multiple sports, they should be free to do so. Maybe exclude them from the athletic scholarship pool and make the compete for need-based and academic-merit-based financial aid.

Crazy in some unexpected way? The NCAA is involved.

[CU2007]

Interesting news coming from the NCAA Convention-Passed a resolution allowing a number of D3 schools playing D1 sports to offer athletic scholarships. RIT in men's and women's ice hockey, Union in men's and women's ice hockey, MIT (!) in rowing and Hobart in men's lacrosse. Restrictions have been put in because athletes on athletic aid at Hobart can only play lacrosse and cannot play at any other sport. Hobart's lacrosse program especially back in its D3 days thrived on dual sports athletes playing both football and lacrosse.

That's crazy. If a student-athlete wants to play multiple sports, they should be free to do so. Maybe exclude them from the athletic scholarship pool and make the compete for need-based and academic-merit-based financial aid.

Yes, but if a school is bringing in scholarship level athletes ON scholarship to play D1 football, and those same superior athletes are dominating on a D3 lacrosse field where scholarships are not allowed, it does bring up "level playing field" questions in my mind. Tricky situation.

[ugarte]

Interesting news coming from the NCAA Convention-Passed a resolution allowing a number of D3 schools playing D1 sports to offer athletic scholarships. RIT in men's and women's ice hockey, Union in men's and women's ice hockey, MIT (!) in rowing and Hobart in men's lacrosse. Restrictions have been put in because athletes on athletic aid at Hobart can only play lacrosse and cannot play at any other sport. Hobart's lacrosse program especially back in its D3 days thrived on dual sports athletes playing both football and lacrosse.

That's crazy. If a student-athlete wants to play multiple sports, they should be free to do so. Maybe exclude them from the athletic scholarship pool and make the compete for need-based and academic-merit-based financial aid.

without even reading the source article, @rss77 said "athletes on athletic aid" so that would seem to mean that you can play multiple sports as long as you aren't on a lacrosse scholarship but normal financial aid would be fine.

[arugula]

Hopkins lacrosse too?

[Weder]

Hopkins lacrosse too?

Hopkins lacrosse already was allowed to have scholarships under a grandfather clause (much like RPI, Clarkson and St. Lawrence have long had hockey scholarships). Hobart and the schools affected by the recent ruling had moved teams up to DI after whatever the cutoff date was.

[arugula]

Gotcha.

[Al DeFlorio]

Interesting book coming, especially for us old guys who watched it happen:

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2021/6/4/50-years-ago-cornell-mens-lacrosse-changed-the-game.aspx

[billhoward]

Interesting book coming, especially for us old guys who watched it happen:

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2021/6/4/50-years-ago-cornell-mens-lacrosse-changed-the-game.aspx

The closer game, arguably the de faco title game, was not the Cornell-Maryland final but the semifinal the week before at Army (now: Army West Point). Richard Nixon was on campus in the morning, unrelated to the game, but it was the same press pass that got sportswriters into the mainstream press room. Thanks for the lunch.

The conspiracy theorists had it that Cornell was paired against Army to avoid there not be zero southern schools in the finals. (Maryland-Navy was the other semifinal.) Or it could just be it was cheaper on NCAA travel budgets.  

Back and forth, Cornell eked out a 17-16 semifinal win. Two of the game's best attackmen, Cornell's Al Rimmer vs. Army's Tom Cafaro. Seems like only yesterday. Cornell played with its backup goalie, Bob Buhmann (RIP), who if I recall was named honoraable mention All-America and injured Bob Rule was first team. Yes, it's long ago and I also realize how little I'd care about some old fart Cornellian telling me about the glories of 1921 Cornell football.

The year before, Cornell went unbeaten and in the final poll, finished fourth behind teams with at least one loss. Southern teams.

[TimV]

I'm hoping the book includes at least something about Ned Harkness' teams of 66-68 (32-1).  Richie gets a lot of well deserved credit, but Ned took a team with mediocre to bad records to two undefeated seasons and is really the one who started the whole thing.  While simultaneously doing pretty good things with hockey.

[Chris H82]

Interesting book coming, especially for us old guys who watched it happen:

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2021/6/4/50-years-ago-cornell-mens-lacrosse-changed-the-game.aspx

The closer game, arguably the de faco title game, was not the Cornell-Maryland final but the semifinal the week before at Army (now: Army West Point). Richard Nixon was on campus in the morning, unrelated to the game, but it was the same press pass that got sportswriters into the mainstream press room. Thanks for the lunch.

The conspiracy theorists had it that Cornell was paired against Army to avoid there not be zero southern schools in the finals. (Maryland-Navy was the other semifinal.) Or it could just be it was cheaper on NCAA travel budgets.  

Back and forth, Cornell eked out a 17-16 semifinal win. Two of the game's best attackmen, Cornell's Al Rimmer vs. Army's Tom Cafaro. Seems like only yesterday. Cornell played with its backup goalie, Bob Buhmann (RIP), who if I recall was named honoraable mention All-America and injured Bob Rule was first team. Yes, it's long ago and I also realize how little I'd care about some old fart Cornellian telling me about the glories of 1921 Cornell football.

The year before, Cornell went unbeaten and in the final poll, finished fourth behind teams with at least one loss. Southern teams.

Hey, I'll take up the mantle for the old fart!  My grandfather was a starting tackle and placekicker for the unbeaten 21 and 22 teams.  Not to mention an EIWA (before the NC$$) champion wrestler at 167 or so lbs.  

Hopefully I've succeeded in putting you to sleep already...

[dbilmes]

Cornell picked to finish third in preseason Ivy poll. Yale received 13 of 14 first-place votes (we received the other). Penn also picked ahead of us.