Schafer's salary

Started by dbilmes, May 24, 2021, 09:55:36 AM

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Trotsky

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: osorojoCities first formed to expedite communication and the distribution of information and goods. Technology has eroded the benefits of cities.
Single and 30? Try meeting somebody this weekend when you've taken your WFH life on the road to Malone, NY.
I mean, rural people do it all the time.


osorojo

Today information travels at the speed of light from desk to desk,floor to floor, and from city to city/state/country. The necessity to huddle-up to exchange information is much reduced. The diaspora of office workers goes on before your eyes. Check location of newly constructed business headquarters.

Swampy

Quote from: osorojoCities first formed to expedite communication and the distribution of information and goods. Technology has eroded the benefits of cities.

Well, Uruk -- arguably the first city -- was a center of power, where the King-Priest resided. Its generic features were religious and military. Caral, in Peru, also seems to have served primarily religious, political, or even cultural roles.*

Don't presume modernist or capitalist imperatives were at work in the ancient world.

*Caral has an amphitheater with excellent acoustics for hearing flute music. Many people point to Caral's inland location and the archeological findings of seafood as a staple in Caral residents' diet as evidence of "trade" or "commerce." But one can imagine all sorts of non-exchange relations that brought food from the ocean inland or cotton from the Andean foothills to communities on the Pacific shore.

Unfortunately, until we have time machines, we may never be able to tell what social relations were the basis for diets involving long-distance movement of foodstuffs.

RichH

Quote from: billhowardBy end of this decade, Delhi supplants Tokyo as world's biggest city and India becomes the most populous country despite being just one time zone.


The current most populous country is just one time zone.

osorojo

The population of NYC has decreased over the past four years. The population of Chicago and Los Angeles have flat-lined over the same time period. Could be a quirk, more likely economics and advances in communication.

billhoward

Quote from: osorojoThe population of NYC has decreased over the past four years. The population of Chicago and Los Angeles have flat-lined over the same time period. Could be a quirk, more likely economics and advances in communication.
I'm thinking of longer term trends, say 2000 to 2050, worldwide not just US. Yes, comms are better now outside urban areas. But you may want to be in a more developed area if you want to find a spouse/partner, or there's a job opportunity for your spouse/partner if you move for a different job, or get better schooling for your kids, or a hospital that knows how to treat a heart attack. A number of companies are rethinking the idea of everyone who wants to can work from home.

osorojo

Uh, you forgot "suburban" and "small-city/town" growth. Face it. The economic reasons for big cities continue to collapse. It's about money and communication. Big cities are more expensive to live in, information travels to and from everywhere at the seed of light, and pretty much everywhere has a much friendlier cost of living than large cities have.

Weder

Quote from: osorojoUh, you forgot "suburban" and "small-city/town" growth. Face it. The economic reasons for big cities continue to collapse. It's about money and communication. Big cities are more expensive to live in, information travels to and from everywhere at the seed of light, and pretty much everywhere has a much friendlier cost of living than large cities have.

The Census Bureau definition of "urban" includes basically any place with a traffic signal. And most of the fastest-growing parts of the country are areas with populations well into six figures.

Quote from: census.govThe Bureau of the Census defines urban as comprising all territory, population, and housing units located in urbanized areas and in places of 2,500 or more inhabitants outside of UAs. The term urban refers to both kinds
of geographic entities. The terms urban, urbanized area, and rural are the Census Bureau's definitions; other Federal agencies, State agencies, local officials, and private groups may use these same terms to identify areas
based on different criteria.

https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/reference/GARM/Ch12GARM.pdf
3/8/96

dag14


billhoward

Quote from: dag14thread drift?
That ship sailed 2 screenfuls ago. I was trying to see how far the thread could drift (I helped that, a lot) and then bring it back. Like an audience participation movie where the emcee stops it, the audience chooses one of two directions, but each path takes the film back to the same place for another branch.

George64

Quote from: dag14thread drift?

Yup, but it's one of the things I like about eLynah.  I don't think that there's another sports site with such interesting sidebars.

osorojo

95+% of new hockey rinks are being built in suburbs and "small" towns, not old-time mega cities.

marty

Quote from: osorojo95+% of new hockey rinks are being built in suburbs and "small" towns, not old-time mega cities.

2 minute minor infraction for negative thread drift.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

osorojo

O.K. - Back to the subject. When you compare cost of/quality of living in Ithaca to the cost/quality of living in a mega-metropolitan city (or commuting to/from) it many reasonable people - including hockey coaches - would choose a hip/hick town such as Ithaca for its quality of life.

Trotsky

Quote from: dag14thread drift?
From "Schafer's salary"?  Good.