Trotsky's Fantasy Post-Season

[marty]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Ralph,  could you please give us a link? I can't find it on YouTube nor RPITV.org.

[ursusminor]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Ralph,  could you please give us a link? I can't find it on YouTube nor RPITV.org.

Sorry. Pickett is a BU fan. Most of his videos thus pertain to BU, but I am sure you remember that the ECAC still used the Boston Garden for several years after the great divorce. The thread is here. The direct link to his uploaded files is here. There is a second Cornell game from a year later, also a loss. Both videos are near the beginning.

[marty]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Ralph,  could you please give us a link? I can't find it on YouTube nor RPITV.org.

Sorry. Pickett is a BU fan. Most of his videos thus pertain to BU, but I am sure you remember that the ECAC still used the Boston Garden for several years after the great divorce. The thread is here. The direct link to his uploaded files is here. There is a second Cornell game from a year later, also a loss. Both videos are near the beginning.

Thanks! In 1996 and 1997 I went to Walmart and changed the station on the feed to their display TVs to see the ECAC tournament.  But I don't think that option was available in 1990.

[Beeeej]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

[ugarte]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

I remember feeling like the only person in the building who heard the quick whistle before Trent Andison put back a loose rebound.

[Trotsky]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

Lemon had also been on a tear that season scoring a goal in something like 10 or 11 straight games.

[redice]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

If I recall correctly, had Ross scored, it was going to be some weird numerical anomaly where it would have been his 23rd goal, his 23rd birthday, and on the 23rd of March... I'm not sure if I have all of that right...(The 23rd of March doesn't sound right for the ECAC tourney).

[Beeeej]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

If I recall correctly, had Ross scored, it was going to be some weird numerical anomaly where it would have been his 23rd goal, his 23rd birthday, and on the 23rd of March... I'm not sure if I have all of that right...(The 23rd of March doesn't sound right for the ECAC tourney).

It was March 10. No idea what the other stuff was about.

[jkahn]

Well, now I'm actually liking real life better.

Yeah, and there goes the CHN tourney. Our record in the regional finals is as bad virtually as it has been in reality.

Nice comment on the CHN game thread.

Cornell averaged about 10 penalty minutes per game through this season....one of the lowest averages in all of Division 1. They also had the fewest game misconducts. Whatever your calculation is for game misconducts, it clearly is not based on season stats per team. Maybe it's based on a Division 1 average. So you penalized Cornell with an unrealistic simulation. The #1 ranked team in the nation would never have committed a game misconduct in a game for the final four. Your simulation is flawed and needs to be corrected and replayed before you continue to disparage great teams. Cornell would have wiped the ice with BC in a game in Albany.

Sounds like somebody needs to get a sense of perspective.  And possibly also a lesson on Poisson statistics.

Here's some positive perspective.  We are 6-0 in all-time postseason games vs. BC, excluding a 1-1 record in NCAA consolation games.   Of the 6-0 games, the only one I did not see live was the '66 ECAC, the spring before my freshmen year.  The two most recent games are the 2003 NCAA regional final (2-1 in 2o't. at Providence) and the 1980 ECAC quarterfinal at BC (5-1).  All the others were between 1966 and 1973.

[ugarte]

It's not clear to me how this affects simulations, but Cornell suffers from having to play mediocre competition in the ECAC. Clarkson isn't bad, but after that -- blah!


It has nothing to do with this, but yesterday I enjoyed watching the 1990 RPI-Cornell ECAC semifinal which Sean Pickett uploaded recently. It made me realize again one of the reasons why I used to despise Cornell. :-) I did not watch that game in 1990 because I don't get NESN.

Those of us who were there in person remember that game not just for having lost in a season we had more than the usual firepower, but for Ross Lemon being awarded - and missing - a penalty shot on his birthday that would have been a late-game tying goal.

If I recall correctly, had Ross scored, it was going to be some weird numerical anomaly where it would have been his 23rd goal, his 23rd birthday, and on the 23rd of March... I'm not sure if I have all of that right...(The 23rd of March doesn't sound right for the ECAC tourney).

his secretary was named lincoln

[Swampy]

Well, now I'm actually liking real life better.

Yeah, and there goes the CHN tourney. Our record in the regional finals is as bad virtually as it has been in reality.

Nice comment on the CHN game thread.

Cornell averaged about 10 penalty minutes per game through this season....one of the lowest averages in all of Division 1. They also had the fewest game misconducts. Whatever your calculation is for game misconducts, it clearly is not based on season stats per team. Maybe it's based on a Division 1 average. So you penalized Cornell with an unrealistic simulation. The #1 ranked team in the nation would never have committed a game misconduct in a game for the final four. Your simulation is flawed and needs to be corrected and replayed before you continue to disparage great teams. Cornell would have wiped the ice with BC in a game in Albany.

Sounds like somebody needs to get a sense of perspective.  And possibly also a lesson on Poisson statistics.

Here's some positive perspective.  We are 6-0 in all-time postseason games vs. BC, excluding a 1-1 record in NCAA consolation games.   Of the 6-0 games, the only one I did not see live was the '66 ECAC, the spring before my freshmen year.  The two most recent games are the 2003 NCAA regional final (2-1 in 2o't. at Providence) and the 1980 ECAC quarterfinal at BC (5-1).  All the others were between 1966 and 1973.

Oh, you wouldn't have liked the '66 game. We blew them out, 9-0 at Lynah. Hardly any excitement at all. **]

[Al DeFlorio]

Well, now I'm actually liking real life better.

Yeah, and there goes the CHN tourney. Our record in the regional finals is as bad virtually as it has been in reality.

Nice comment on the CHN game thread.

Cornell averaged about 10 penalty minutes per game through this season....one of the lowest averages in all of Division 1. They also had the fewest game misconducts. Whatever your calculation is for game misconducts, it clearly is not based on season stats per team. Maybe it's based on a Division 1 average. So you penalized Cornell with an unrealistic simulation. The #1 ranked team in the nation would never have committed a game misconduct in a game for the final four. Your simulation is flawed and needs to be corrected and replayed before you continue to disparage great teams. Cornell would have wiped the ice with BC in a game in Albany.

Sounds like somebody needs to get a sense of perspective.  And possibly also a lesson on Poisson statistics.

Here's some positive perspective.  We are 6-0 in all-time postseason games vs. BC, excluding a 1-1 record in NCAA consolation games.   Of the 6-0 games, the only one I did not see live was the '66 ECAC, the spring before my freshmen year.  The two most recent games are the 2003 NCAA regional final (2-1 in 2o't. at Providence) and the 1980 ECAC quarterfinal at BC (5-1).  All the others were between 1966 and 1973.

Oh, you wouldn't have liked the '66 game. We blew them out, 9-0 at Lynah. Hardly any excitement at all. **]

Fantastic game.  First post-season Cornell win.  Lynah packed an hour before game time. A Doug goal on the opening rush.  Then a first period Doug hat trick.  Three years later my apartment was down the hall from Pat Murphy's, the BC starting goalie that night.  Nice guy.  Beautiful wife.

[KenP]

Getting back to the title of this thread.... can you do another version of your simulation that includes 1..n mulligans?  USCHO and CHN and ELF is too much for me.

Even if it's fake^2 I could use some fun Big Red news.

[marty]

Well, now I'm actually liking real life better.

Yeah, and there goes the CHN tourney. Our record in the regional finals is as bad virtually as it has been in reality.

Nice comment on the CHN game thread.

Cornell averaged about 10 penalty minutes per game through this season....one of the lowest averages in all of Division 1. They also had the fewest game misconducts. Whatever your calculation is for game misconducts, it clearly is not based on season stats per team. Maybe it's based on a Division 1 average. So you penalized Cornell with an unrealistic simulation. The #1 ranked team in the nation would never have committed a game misconduct in a game for the final four. Your simulation is flawed and needs to be corrected and replayed before you continue to disparage great teams. Cornell would have wiped the ice with BC in a game in Albany.

Sounds like somebody needs to get a sense of perspective.  And possibly also a lesson on Poisson statistics.

Here's some positive perspective.  We are 6-0 in all-time postseason games vs. BC, excluding a 1-1 record in NCAA consolation games.   Of the 6-0 games, the only one I did not see live was the '66 ECAC, the spring before my freshmen year.  The two most recent games are the 2003 NCAA regional final (2-1 in 2o't. at Providence) and the 1980 ECAC quarterfinal at BC (5-1).  All the others were between 1966 and 1973.

It would be fun to document how many times Cornell beat Jerry York as a player vs as a coach in these playoff games.

[ursusminor]

https://twitter.com/SimulatinSports/status/1245022425181347840

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