Cornell @ Quinnipiac 1/31/2020

Started by Swampy, January 30, 2020, 04:21:14 PM

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upprdeck

what angle show it under control as opposed to being under part of the pad?

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLoverIt's also why you don't put faith in a website like playoffstatus.com that assigns teams odds based on their records across tiny sample sizes without pricing in.

Here we go. An annual tradition like no other.
Yep. Wish people wouldn't link to that site every year. ::smashfreak::

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLoverThis is why you play a full season and not judge a team by its first 11 games. It's also why you don't put faith in a website like playoffstatus.com that assigns teams odds based on their records across tiny sample sizes without pricing in uncertainty.

I don't know how good this year's team is. I don't think it's right to say this is some Jekyll and Hyde situation where the team is either "on" or it isn't. They stunk last night. I am going to average this result in with the others and not dismiss last night as an aberration.

This was an even game in terms of talent. We were lucky to beat Q at Lynah this year, which involved them not scoring on three consecutive odd-man rushes and us winning by one goal. Cornell could lose to Northeastern 4-0 in the first round of the NCAA tournament. They could lose to Clarkson, Harvard, or Q 4-0 in the ECAC semis. They could also go all the way. But I don't think it's helpful to think in those terms. This is a team we are still learning about, and that is still learning about itself.

Q has 9 losses this year.  I hope Cornell plays them in March.
Minnesota-Duluth (two-time defending champs and #6 in the Pairwise) has nine losses also. A regional with Q and UMD in it would allow us to coast into the Frozen Four.

marty

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Here we go. An annual tradition like no other.

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"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Dafatone

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Quote from: BearLoverIt's also why you don't put faith in a website like playoffstatus.com that assigns teams odds based on their records across tiny sample sizes without pricing in.

Here we go. An annual tradition like no other.
Yep. Wish people wouldn't link to that site every year. ::smashfreak::

The frustration is that, in a year where we're around .500 right now, there aren't many posters looking at projected odds and saying, "gee, law of averages says our chances are going up!"

Essentially, the imbalance between pessimism and optimism can be frustrating. We're having a stellar season (with a bit of a road bump at the moment) and it's not like anyone's being overly optimistic. But on a less-than-great year, the sky is falling.

ice

Quote from: upprdeckwhat angle show it under control as opposed to being under part of the pad?

There is overhead video here:

https://youtu.be/21ymxYmvMg8

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: upprdeckwhat angle show it under control as opposed to being under part of the pad?

There is overhead video here:

https://youtu.be/21ymxYmvMg8

I don't know what the video review rule is, but the whistle didn't blow till after the puck was in. I also don't know where the puck was, under the pad or skate. Nor can I say that the goalie had control of it.

Maybe they had a better review angle, a net cam would be useful, but I'm not sure what the ruling was to overturn it. So without knowing their ruling, it's had to argue.
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osorojo

The apparent absence of physical disabilities on the Cornell team makes this loss difficult to explain or rationalize. Wait. That wasn't a loss. That was a butt-kicking.

upprdeck

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Quote from: upprdeckwhat angle show it under control as opposed to being under part of the pad?

There is overhead video here:

https://youtu.be/21ymxYmvMg8

yeah but where is the puck to say he has control.  his leg could have been 6 inches off the ice from that angle with the puck under it.

upprdeck

the fact coach just laughed off the explanation pretty much sums it off.

Swampy

But how much does it matter? Would your reaction, or more importantly that of the players, to the game be different if the final score were 5-1?

upprdeck

5-1 with 10 ish to go is not something that cant happen.  the goal was to get it to 5-3 so you could pull the goalie and hope for a miracle.

Trotsky

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Quote from: BearLoverIt's also why you don't put faith in a website like playoffstatus.com that assigns teams odds based on their records across tiny sample sizes without pricing in.

Here we go. An annual tradition like no other.


abmarks

Don't think anyone has pointed this out yet explicitly about the Christmas break.


Before January 1: 9-0

Since January 1: 5-1-4


So what happened over break?  I don't know.

One thing that we can see though, is that as our ranking went up near the top, everyone we play is bringing their A game to knock off the big dog.

Has anyone taken the night off against us since.new years?

None of that explains last night's stinker, but as long as we're top 5 in the country we need to be prepared for teams being super amped against us, which means we have no margin for error.

ugarte

Our shooting percentage was unsustainably high before the break and it feels unsustainably low right now. Last night, though, it seems like we had a very rough two minutes that we couldn't recover from. Unlike the Dartmouth loss, which was against the run of play, last night was a legit loss that variance turned into a blowout. If tonight it's more if the same, then I'll start to worry.