Cornell - Northeastern

[upprdeck]

Solid D.. dont make the goalie have to make too many tough saves and bury just a few of the many chances they got in close..

lets try that again tomorrow..

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

[Jim Hyla]

We've had good discussions about trading NCAA wins for an ECAC Championship.

Granted that your latest win seems the best win, but tonight proved to me that I'd trade the ECAC for an NCAA win.

[RichH]

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

I don't buy that. You don't think that game could have gone the same way if it were played in Manchester or Worcester? AIC beat St. Cloud on Minnesota's porch. These games are intense and can turn on any bounce. The "home ice" effect is minimized once you get this far, I think.

[Jim Hyla]

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

I don't buy that. You don't think that game could have gone the same way if it were played in Manchester or Worcester? AIC beat St. Cloud on Minnesota's porch. These games are intense and can turn on any bounce. The "home ice" effect is minimized once you get this far, I think.

I disagree. Once Providence got their second goal the crowd came alive and you could feel the electricity. I can't believe that the team didn't feel that and feed off of it.

Do I think that is the reason they won? Only partially, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

I had a good discussion with Al, and I still don't think it's fair to put a #4 essentially at home, unless changing it would significantly upset others. I don't see how switching teams between Providence an Manchester would have hurt anyone except Providence.

[upprdeck]

down 3-0 away from home with 200 fans in the bldg doesnt happen often.

if you are going to seed teams then you cant make a 1 play in that type of spot..

[CU77]

If a host team didn't get to play at it's own site, no one would host.

The systems is as fair as it's going to get in the real world.

[Greenberg '97]

If a host team didn't get to play at it's own site, no one would host.

The systems is as fair as it's going to get in the real world.

Except that Brown is the host, not Providence.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

I don't buy that. You don't think that game could have gone the same way if it were played in Manchester or Worcester? AIC beat St. Cloud on Minnesota's porch. These games are intense and can turn on any bounce. The "home ice" effect is minimized once you get this far, I think.

I disagree. Once Providence got their second goal the crowd came alive and you could feel the electricity. I can't believe that the team didn't feel that and feed off of it.

Do I think that is the reason they won? Only partially, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

I agree with Jim.  The home crowd definitely helped Providence once they scored their first goal.  But after the 4th Mankato goal was waved off, they just stopped skating.  Frankly, they looked slow.

[Jim Hyla]

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

I don't buy that. You don't think that game could have gone the same way if it were played in Manchester or Worcester? AIC beat St. Cloud on Minnesota's porch. These games are intense and can turn on any bounce. The "home ice" effect is minimized once you get this far, I think.

I disagree. Once Providence got their second goal the crowd came alive and you could feel the electricity. I can't believe that the team didn't feel that and feed off of it.

Do I think that is the reason they won? Only partially, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

I agree with Jim.  The home crowd definitely helped Providence once they scored their first goal.  But after the 4th Mankato goal was waved off, they just stopped skating.  Frankly, they looked slow.

From USCHO article:

Leaman said "Then Vimal's goal got the building alive a little bit, and it got us going."

[djk26]

Congratulations Cornell!  Great game today, the best NCAA tournament game in the 20 years I have followed the team.  The first NCAA win by more than one goal since 2003.

[Swampy]

Trying to understand the "logic" behind how the powers that be assign block seating.

As a Cornell fan, I usually try to sit — maybe optimistically — by the blueline of the end we'll be attacking for two of the three periods. But yesterday, at the Dunk, Cornell block seating (including the band) was at the end Cornell was defending for 2/3 of the game.

What explains this? Is there some hockey logic to it? Is it some quaint Rhode Island custom, like coffee milk and bubblas? Cluelessness?

Can we get Cornell Athletics to inform our hosts that our team intends to spend most of the game in its offensive zone, and our fans want to sit there so as to cheer their team on and not be bored?

Inquiring minds (with too much time on their hands) want to know.

[Al DeFlorio]

Trying to understand the "logic" behind how the powers that be assign block seating.

As a Cornell fan, I usually try to sit — maybe optimistically — by the blueline of the end we'll be attacking for two of the three periods. But yesterday, at the Dunk, Cornell block seating (including the band) was at the end Cornell was defending for 2/3 of the game.

What explains this? Is there some hockey logic to it? Is it some quaint Rhode Island custom, like coffee milk and bubblas? Cluelessness?

Can we get Cornell Athletics to inform our hosts that our team intends to spend most of the game in its offensive zone, and our fans want to sit there so as to cheer their team on and not be bored?

Inquiring minds (with too much time on their hands) want to know.

What was strange was lower-seeded Providence shooting twice at the end where higher-seeded Northeastern shot.  Benches were reversed in terms of seeding, too.  Cornell had the Mankato bench.  Entrances to the ice from locker rooms also reversed.

Maybe Providence was given the locker room used by Friar basketball that plays st the Dunk.

[marty]

Trying to understand the "logic" behind how the powers that be assign block seating.

As a Cornell fan, I usually try to sit — maybe optimistically — by the blueline of the end we'll be attacking for two of the three periods. But yesterday, at the Dunk, Cornell block seating (including the band) was at the end Cornell was defending for 2/3 of the game.

What explains this? Is there some hockey logic to it? Is it some quaint Rhode Island custom, like coffee milk and bubblas? Cluelessness?

Can we get Cornell Athletics to inform our hosts that our team intends to spend most of the game in its offensive zone, and our fans want to sit there so as to cheer their team on and not be bored?

Inquiring minds (with too much time on their hands) want to know.

It's even weirder.  The home team in the first game was on the side of the rink that the visiting team, Cornell, had for the second game.  If they had been consistent with the locker rooms then things would have lined up the way we expect them to.

And  yet the Mavericks and Friars were seated at the "wrong" end of the ice too.  The rink manager should know better.

[RichH]

still no chance Prov wins today if they didnt have home ice.

I don't buy that. You don't think that game could have gone the same way if it were played in Manchester or Worcester? AIC beat St. Cloud on Minnesota's porch. These games are intense and can turn on any bounce. The "home ice" effect is minimized once you get this far, I think.

I disagree. Once Providence got their second goal the crowd came alive and you could feel the electricity. I can't believe that the team didn't feel that and feed off of it.

Do I think that is the reason they won? Only partially, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

This has nothing to do with my argument, Jim. I was only disputing the statement that "no chance Providence wins" if they aren't playing in Providence. That's insulting to the skill and talent of Providence. They could have won that game in Manchester, Allentown, or Fargo.  I'm never going to dispute that a rocking, boisterous arena can provide some sort of advantage to a team.  OF COURSE having a large partisan crowd can help with energy and intangibles, but to say it's not possible for them to win without it is wrong, IMO.

Heck, I'd say that when a team is down 3-0 and they score, even the non-partisans will respond with some noise, energy, and excitement (oh, and your very measurable and tangible quantity of "electricity"), because neutral fans WANT to see a good, entertaining, close game. Nobody wants to go to a game where a team gets blown away, save for one team's fans.

If they had played this game in Manchester, guess who would STILL have a large majority of fan support in the building?  Still Providence. Is that still unfair?

We played a school whose campus is 50 miles from the regional site. Is that also unfair?

I hope you don't get hurt from all that "electricity" tonight. Make sure you bring a grounding wire, I hear Providence lead Hockey East in current this season.

[Scersk '97]

Nobody wants to go to a game where a team gets blown away, save for one team's fans.

Honestly, I find the rare blowout that we execute somewhat boring as well, unless it's against (in order of ascending glee):

• Dartmouth, for the Gaudet lulz
• Colgate, for historical reasons
• SLU, to stick it to those dumb, rich kids and some of the league's most annoying home fans
• Yale, because we owe them
• Clarkson, because it's always fun to dump on your most respected rival
• RPI, for all their accumulated cheap play over the years
• Union, because: Bennett
• BU, for the national inhale of shock
• Minnesota, to remind them of why their pride ought to stay on the links, and we owe them
• BC, who should go away already
• Harvard, obvs.
• Quinnipiac, for their accumulation of the worst trends in college hockey, their horrible rink culture, and—well—Rand