2019 ECAC 1R

[Dafatone]

Sad fact of the day: a reported 585 people witnessed the historically long Princeton-Brown Game 2, which was fewer than attended 4 of the D-III women's games and 2 of the D-III men's games yesterday (NCAA round of . Only 484 attended the women's Hockey East semi of Northeastern at Providence (the host). I guess Providence ain't a hockey town.

Also, Minnesota ain't a hockey state. :-P

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/gopher-hockey-tops-michigan-in-overtime-in-front-of-1800-fans

Check out the panoramic photos contained in that story. For decades now, the attendance for the on-campus sites for the ECAC tournament has been dreadful, Cornell included. I guess the Big Ten is similar?

Wow @ that pic of Mariucci. No doubt that attendance, especially during the conference playoffs, has been waning for years. Do other college sports have this problem? Is it a problem, in terms of financial sustainability? I have no clue about these sort of things. It does suck for the players and the fans who show up—a definite buzz killer. Probably a number of factors (that have no doubt been talked about on ELF ad nauseum).

The state high school hockey championship was going on at the same time at the Xcel center (where the Wild play). Otherwise, I bet attendance would have been better.

[Trotsky]

The state high school hockey championship was going on at the same time at the Xcel center (where the Wild play). Otherwise, I bet attendance would have been better.

That definitely helps explain it.  HS hockey : Minnesota :: HS football : Texas

[Trotsky]

Brown possible winning goal under review, likely for a possible offsides; last replay they showed seems to be offsides.

I also thought it looked offside, even though the announcers thought it wasn't. I'd like to see a still image of that one.

Check out the attached image. You can just see part of the puck, still not completely across the line. (It's the black dot just below where the player's jersey ends.) The other player is clearly across the line. Very close, but I think Princeton got robbed!

Wow really? Looks very offside. Was this reviewed by the linesman on an iPhone 3?

They took a long, long time reviewing it and presumably had many angles.

I don't like that the most damning piece of evidence above doesn't show the puck.  It could be blocked by the player's body and be entirely over the line.

It looked much, much closer on the many replays from 2 different angles the broadcast showed in realtime.  I guessed that it would be deemed insufficient for overturning, but we never got an explanation from the refs (there may have been one post-game).

[Iceberg]

Union and Yale advance.  Prn @ Brn and SLU @ Drt go to overtime.

If Dartmouth wins their series we play Union.  If SLU wins, we play the winner of the Princeton-Brown series.

I would much rather see Union. Brown is playing inspired hockey right now. Dartmouth winning would also mean that Brown goes and plays QU, which would be interesting since QU is missing 3 of their top defensemen for at least the first second-round game.

[Jim Hyla]

Union and Yale advance.  Prn @ Brn and SLU @ Drt go to overtime.

If Dartmouth wins their series we play Union.  If SLU wins, we play the winner of the Princeton-Brown series.

I would much rather see Union. Brown is playing inspired hockey right now. Dartmouth winning would also mean that Brown goes and plays QU, which would be interesting since QU is missing 3 of their top defensemen for at least the first second-round game.

All is true, but the team would seem to have incentive to show that they can rebound after that terrible :53 at Brown.

Having said that, I think the best chance of the combo of us winning and Q losing is your picks.

Tough choice.

[BearLover]

Union and Yale advance.  Prn @ Brn and SLU @ Drt go to overtime.

If Dartmouth wins their series we play Union.  If SLU wins, we play the winner of the Princeton-Brown series.

I would much rather see Union. Brown is playing inspired hockey right now. Dartmouth winning would also mean that Brown goes and plays QU, which would be interesting since QU is missing 3 of their top defensemen for at least the first second-round game.

Union (19-11-6, 17th) is a far better team than Brown (13-13-5, 31st), so I would much rather see Brown. Union is senior-dominated and finished their season on a high note. Brown got blown out in both games the final weekend of their regular season and then in 3 minutes managed to blow a 5-2 lead against a bad Princeton team. Given that Cornell would likely be eliminated from the NCAA if they lost the series against either team, they'd certainly be better off playing the easier opponent.

[Dafatone]

Union and Yale advance.  Prn @ Brn and SLU @ Drt go to overtime.

If Dartmouth wins their series we play Union.  If SLU wins, we play the winner of the Princeton-Brown series.

I would much rather see Union. Brown is playing inspired hockey right now. Dartmouth winning would also mean that Brown goes and plays QU, which would be interesting since QU is missing 3 of their top defensemen for at least the first second-round game.

Union (19-11-6, 17th) is a far better team than Brown (13-13-5, 31st), so I would much rather see Brown. Union is senior-dominated and finished their season on a high note. Brown got blown out in both games the final weekend of their regular season and then in 3 minutes managed to blow a 5-2 lead against a bad Princeton team. Given that Cornell would likely be eliminated from the NCAA if they lost the series against either team, they'd certainly be better off playing the easier opponent.

Brown is better than their record, though like you said, they've suddenly tipped downwards. Union's about as good as their record and playing well now. Union would help our RPI a little more in that they have a better record. One of the issues with RPI is that it doesn't take into account how well a team is playing now. Brown's a bigger challenge than their impact on our RPI suggests. Confusingly, our game against RPI reflected this too (Rensselaer had been playing close to .500 hockey in 2019, but their overall record was still bad.)

Either way, goal is to win. If we play well, we can beat either team.

[Trotsky]

There's something to be said for getting the chance to knock off the better team with a best of 3 at home rather than a single neutral site game.

Had we drawn Princeton in the QF last year we might have been rid of them.

[upprdeck]

if we cant beat either team at home best of 3, i doubt we get to play again.

if we are healthy and play with some zip we will be fine against both

[Dafatone]

if we cant beat either team at home best of 3, i doubt we get to play again.

if we are healthy and play with some zip we will be fine against both

If we go 1-2 against Union, we might survive. But the lose-at-home penalty in RPI could really hurt us.

The more I look at RPI, the more I think the biggest problem is the 1.2x weighting for road wins / home losses and the 0.8x weighting for home wins / road losses. It results in a lot of funky results, such as Arizona State benefiting from playing 18 road games and 14 home games (and going 9-2 in 1.2x games and 12-9 in 0.8x games) and us losing out because we had four road ties (ties on the road are lost opportunities, but ties at home are dodged bullets).

[Trotsky]

Dartmouth up 1-0 in a really lackluster game 3.

[Trotsky]

Big Green sporting their Crime Against Humanity jailbird threads.

[andyw2100]

Dartmouth up 1-0 in a really lackluster game 3.

6-0 now, with 6:01 left in the second period!

[Trotsky]

Hello, Union...

[Jim Hyla]

Hello, Union...

I'm worried.::worry::