Cornell Football 2019

[billhoward]

Need more than moral victories at this stage. Anyone see evidence of "hybrid warfare"?

Somebody cut off a Prius exiting Lot D after the game. That's about it.

[David Harding]

Insides kicking team needs work.

All in all, it would have been a moral victory had the scored ended 20-16 Yale. Giving up a TD on that onsides kick. Ouch.

That last one felt like an ENG.

[Ken711]

Need more than moral victories at this stage. Anyone see evidence of "hybrid warfare"?

Somebody cut off a Prius exiting Lot D after the game. That's about it.

[Swampy]

Here is the start of the second paragraph on the Athletics department's website.  Someone needs to learn that you return interceptions for touchdowns.

"Yale took advantage of four Big Red turnovers, including a touchdown return for an interception,..."

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football? If this were the Daily Sun or WHCU, one could write it off as someone learning their trade and unfamiliar with sport they're discussing. But this is the freakin Athletics department, whose staff one would assume is supposed to know about ... well, athletics. If our "experts" are so clueless about football, how on earth would anyone imagine that our abysmal record in football over the past two decades is an accident?

Demand Big Structural Change!

[billhoward]

Moral victory: Prius didn't catch fire.

[Trotsky]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Barring some sort of metaphysical adjustment of Cornell Being, our football will always suck.  The arbitrary "base the prestige of your multi-billion dollar research university on the athletic achievements of kids who could not possibly get in otherwise" landed on hockey for us.  

Cornell football sucks because Cornell was lucky.  We could have been Penn.

[CAS]

Cornell football has not always sucked.  We had a winning program from the mid-'80's thru 2000.  Our football fortunes have cratered under the current AD.  I don't see why we can have nationally competitive teams in hockey & lacrosse & can't compete in Ivy football.

[ugarte]

We kept it close against the preseason top pick in the league. nobody here expected to win that game. Coles had some great runs, the defense made some very good stops, we didn't recover the onside kick.

It's not even that I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy but I'm not sure what more you wanted out of that game than wishing for a time machine to turn over the coaching staff two years ago.

[billhoward]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Barring some sort of metaphysical adjustment of Cornell Being, our football will always suck.  The arbitrary "base the prestige of your multi-billion dollar research university on the athletic achievements of kids who could not possibly get in otherwise" landed on hockey for us.  

Cornell football sucks because Cornell was lucky.  We could have been Penn.

At least Eric Furda cared. Plus, you need to let off some steam when you spend probably half your work week dealing with alumni who want to get their kid without offering you, or the school, a half-million dollars.

[Ken711]

We kept it close against the preseason top pick in the league. nobody here expected to win that game. Coles had some great runs, the defense made some very good stops, we didn't recover the onside kick.

It's not even that I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy but I'm not sure what more you wanted out of that game than wishing for a time machine to turn over the coaching staff two years ago.

I'd say Dartmouth and Princeton look especially strong so far, and I would guess they both could beat Yale.

[Jim Hyla]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Did you notice that they're picked to be seventh?

[CAS]

Ugarte, if Rob Koll was entering year 7 with a 25% winning %, uncompetitive facilities & funding, alienated donors, & no apparent plan to turn things around, would you feel sanguine after losing a relatively close match

[Trotsky]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Did you notice that they're picked to be seventh?

Did you notice they haven't won the ECAC title in 57 years?

Brown picked 7th this year is a perfect analogy to Cornell football.  Some years Cornell football will be picked 5th.  Some years Cornell football may even be in it until the final weekend.  Someday Cornell football may win an outright Ivy title!

But we'll still suck; at the baseline, in the bloodstream.  Cornell football has swung from awful to mediocre to awful for my entire tenure as a Cornellian (since 1981).  That is what we are.  We don't make the Faustian deals necessary to compete in a D1 sport for football the way we do for hockey, wrestling, and lacrosse.  

A. D. White (I think.  You know, the California trip quote and the inflated bladder and all that) had his way in the end.  

Good.

[Ken711]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Did you notice that they're picked to be seventh?

Did you notice they haven't won the ECAC title in 57 years?

Brown picked 7th this year is a perfect analogy to Cornell football.  Some years Cornell football will be picked 5th.  Some years Cornell football may even be in it until the final weekend.  Someday Cornell football may win an outright Ivy title!

But we'll still suck; at the baseline, in the bloodstream.  Cornell football has swung from awful to mediocre to awful for my entire tenure as a Cornellian (since 1981).  That is what we are.  We don't make the Faustian deals necessary to compete in a D1 sport for football the way we do for hockey, wrestling, and lacrosse.  

A. D. White (I think.  You know, the California trip quote and the inflated bladder and all that) had his way in the end.  

Good.

How was Cornell awful to mediocre since 1981? They won the Ivy Championship in 1988 and 1990!  They finished second in 1995 and 2000.

[Trotsky]

Do you wonder why we suck so much at football?

No.

It's why Brown sucks at hockey.  The school does not care, so it does not make the substantive and illicit investments needed to win.

Did you notice that they're picked to be seventh?

Did you notice they haven't won the ECAC title in 57 years?

Brown picked 7th this year is a perfect analogy to Cornell football.  Some years Cornell football will be picked 5th.  Some years Cornell football may even be in it until the final weekend.  Someday Cornell football may win an outright Ivy title!

But we'll still suck; at the baseline, in the bloodstream.  Cornell football has swung from awful to mediocre to awful for my entire tenure as a Cornellian (since 1981).  That is what we are.  We don't make the Faustian deals necessary to compete in a D1 sport for football the way we do for hockey, wrestling, and lacrosse.  

A. D. White (I think.  You know, the California trip quote and the inflated bladder and all that) had his way in the end.  

Good.

How was Cornell awful to mediocre since 1981? They won the Ivy Championship in 1988 and 1990!  They finished second in 1995 and 2000.

40 years, 4 times in contention.  That is well within the variance of a mediocre team.

Take the 10-year running sum of Ivy wins starting 1981-90.  Have we ever been even 3rd, let alone 2nd or 1st?

I will take this admonition, though.  If likewise we have never been 7th or 8th then I'll allow that we have been perpetually mediocre and never truly awful.  Perhaps Columbia and... I dunno... Brown(?) can save us.