Indoor Practice Facility

[billhoward]

The campus master plan pre-dates the link you reference by at least 15 years but this shows that it has been conceded that Athletics is being displaced

That is probably the long term fate of on-campus athletics facilities: They get moved farther away. Still,it's a shame.

Cornell did not - my opinion - give enough consideration to higher-density central campus academic buildings and this goes back to making Uris Hall (1973) just four above-ground floors. I wonder if the AD White House and its extensive grounds will ever serve a higher (density) purpose. Cornell could also buy up more of Collegetown for academic buildings. If Pine Tree Road area is the future of Cornell athletics, the loooong term plan needs to relocate football and hockey there. Be nice if Cornell keeps Teagle Hall as a fit-rec center for students.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

It would be fabulous if the indoor facility could hold fans. I said 1,000 but really even 500 would be okay. Not many soccer (M or W), field hockey, even the early-season MLax games draw more than a couple hundred. Just OK is not OK.

Well, suppose the U.S. men's soccer team wins the WC in, say, 2030, and the women's team wins it in 2023, 2027, and 2031. Now all this success makes soccer the national pastime, with kids clamoring to play it everywhere. Suppose also, that Cornell men's and women's soccer become signature sports, achieving hockey-like success and popularity. E.g., both teams are ranked #1 much of the year and win the NC. Make similar assumptions about lacrosse. Might not all this popularity and success increase crowd size beyond 500?

About the same odds as a nuclear strike destroying the indoor practice facility.

Good one, Al.:-D

Is there still a nuclear reactor on campus?

Nope.  Closed in 2002.

I took a reactor design course sophomore year, and it was pretty cool seeing the reactor in operation.  You could actually see it working because of the Cherenkov Radiation.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

The campus master plan pre-dates the link you reference by at least 15 years but this shows that it has been conceded that Athletics is being displaced

That is probably the long term fate of on-campus athletics facilities: They get moved farther away. Still,it's a shame.

Cornell did not - my opinion - give enough consideration to higher-density central campus academic buildings and this goes back to making Uris Hall (1973) just four above-ground floors. I wonder if the AD White House and its extensive grounds will ever serve a higher (density) purpose. Cornell could also buy up more of Collegetown for academic buildings. If Pine Tree Road area is the future of Cornell athletics, the loooong term plan needs to relocate football and hockey there. Be nice if Cornell keeps Teagle Hall as a fit-rec center for students.

FWIW, the idea of the sports facilities being located a short distance from campus works pretty well at Lehigh.  The key is parking for visitors and transportation for students.

[Swampy]

The campus master plan pre-dates the link you reference by at least 15 years but this shows that it has been conceded that Athletics is being displaced

That is probably the long term fate of on-campus athletics facilities: They get moved farther away. Still,it's a shame.

Cornell did not - my opinion - give enough consideration to higher-density central campus academic buildings and this goes back to making Uris Hall (1973) just four above-ground floors. I wonder if the AD White House and its extensive grounds will ever serve a higher (density) purpose. Cornell could also buy up more of Collegetown for academic buildings. If Pine Tree Road area is the future of Cornell athletics, the loooong term plan needs to relocate football and hockey there. Be nice if Cornell keeps Teagle Hall as a fit-rec center for students.

+1

[Swampy]

The campus master plan pre-dates the link you reference by at least 15 years but this shows that it has been conceded that Athletics is being displaced

The document at the end of the link is dated 2015. It refers to a "2008 Cornell Master Plan" (p. 4). 15-8 = 7, just ask osorojo.

Also, the term "field" appears 234 times in the document; "indoor" appears 3 times, and never in relation to anything the plan actually proposes:

• "The Lindseth Climbing Wall was the best of its kind when it first went up and still is the largest natural rock indoor climbing wall in North America."
• "Ideally Athletics would like to fit all sports in a new indoor multi-purpose facility because they could practice to late hours without any neighbor complaints of lights/noise" [or errant lacrosse balls]
• "Batting Cage(s) (indoor preferred)" [see comment about lacrosse balls]

[scoop85]

The campus master plan pre-dates the link you reference by at least 15 years but this shows that it has been conceded that Athletics is being displaced

That is probably the long term fate of on-campus athletics facilities: They get moved farther away. Still,it's a shame.

Cornell did not - my opinion - give enough consideration to higher-density central campus academic buildings and this goes back to making Uris Hall (1973) just four above-ground floors. I wonder if the AD White House and its extensive grounds will ever serve a higher (density) purpose. Cornell could also buy up more of Collegetown for academic buildings. If Pine Tree Road area is the future of Cornell athletics, the loooong term plan needs to relocate football and hockey there. Be nice if Cornell keeps Teagle Hall as a fit-rec center for students.

FWIW, the idea of the sports facilities being located a short distance from campus works pretty well at Lehigh.  The key is parking for visitors and transportation for students.

When I visited Lehigh last year with my son to take a tour, I didn't like that the athletic facilities were not part of the "main" campus.

[upprdeck]

would anything on game farm be any further than the walk for PSU from downtown to the football stadium? 5-10 min walk but vastly easier parking up there.

SU half the people park and ride a bus into games.

This is not like Uconn with the stadium being 1/2 hr from campus.

[Cop at Lynah]

Nope , Ward Lab decommissioned several years ago

[Ken711]

would anything on game farm be any further than the walk for PSU from downtown to the football stadium? 5-10 min walk but vastly easier parking up there.

SU half the people park and ride a bus into games.

This is not like Uconn with the stadium being 1/2 hr from campus.

I think that location will be close enough with the added advantage as you indicated of easier parking access,

[dag14]

I realize that the doc refers to 2008; however, the Trustees, et al were in favor of moving athletics off campus way before that.  Coming up with a precise alternative location didn't happen until this millennium.

[marty]

It would be fabulous if the indoor facility could hold fans. I said 1,000 but really even 500 would be okay. Not many soccer (M or W), field hockey, even the early-season MLax games draw more than a couple hundred. Just OK is not OK.

Well, suppose the U.S. men's soccer team wins the WC in, say, 2030, and the women's team wins it in 2023, 2027, and 2031. Now all this success makes soccer the national pastime, with kids clamoring to play it everywhere. Suppose also, that Cornell men's and women's soccer become signature sports, achieving hockey-like success and popularity. E.g., both teams are ranked #1 much of the year and win the NC. Make similar assumptions about lacrosse. Might not all this popularity and success increase crowd size beyond 500?

About the same odds as a nuclear strike destroying the indoor practice facility.

Good one, Al.:-D

Is there still a nuclear reactor on campus?

Nope.  Closed in 2002.

I took a reactor design course sophomore year, and it was pretty cool seeing the reactor in operation.  You could actually see it working because of the Cherenkov Radiation.

The cyclotron footprint is in an interesting location.  If I knew this I was still surprised to see it depicted like this.

[David Harding]

It would be fabulous if the indoor facility could hold fans. I said 1,000 but really even 500 would be okay. Not many soccer (M or W), field hockey, even the early-season MLax games draw more than a couple hundred. Just OK is not OK.

Well, suppose the U.S. men's soccer team wins the WC in, say, 2030, and the women's team wins it in 2023, 2027, and 2031. Now all this success makes soccer the national pastime, with kids clamoring to play it everywhere. Suppose also, that Cornell men's and women's soccer become signature sports, achieving hockey-like success and popularity. E.g., both teams are ranked #1 much of the year and win the NC. Make similar assumptions about lacrosse. Might not all this popularity and success increase crowd size beyond 500?

About the same odds as a nuclear strike destroying the indoor practice facility.

Good one, Al.:-D

Is there still a nuclear reactor on campus?

Nope.  Closed in 2002.

I took a reactor design course sophomore year, and it was pretty cool seeing the reactor in operation.  You could actually see it working because of the Cherenkov Radiation.

The cyclotron footprint is in an interesting location.  If I knew this I was still surprised to see it depicted like this.

I'm nit-picking, but it's a synchrotron, not a cyclotron.

[marty]

It would be fabulous if the indoor facility could hold fans. I said 1,000 but really even 500 would be okay. Not many soccer (M or W), field hockey, even the early-season MLax games draw more than a couple hundred. Just OK is not OK.

Well, suppose the U.S. men's soccer team wins the WC in, say, 2030, and the women's team wins it in 2023, 2027, and 2031. Now all this success makes soccer the national pastime, with kids clamoring to play it everywhere. Suppose also, that Cornell men's and women's soccer become signature sports, achieving hockey-like success and popularity. E.g., both teams are ranked #1 much of the year and win the NC. Make similar assumptions about lacrosse. Might not all this popularity and success increase crowd size beyond 500?

About the same odds as a nuclear strike destroying the indoor practice facility.

Good one, Al.:-D

Is there still a nuclear reactor on campus?

Nope.  Closed in 2002.

I took a reactor design course sophomore year, and it was pretty cool seeing the reactor in operation.  You could actually see it working because of the Cherenkov Radiation.

The cyclotron footprint is in an interesting location.  If I knew this I was still surprised to see it depicted like this.

I'm nit-picking, but it's was a synchrotron, not a cyclotron.

FYP::burnout::

[upprdeck]

hmm.

cornell cyclotron tour

[RichH]

hmm.

cornell cyclotron tour

https://www.machinedesign.com/learning-resources/whats-the-difference-between/article/21832184/what-are-the-differences-between-linear-accelerators-cyclotrons-and-synchrotrons