Cornell football 2018

Started by billhoward, June 03, 2018, 06:57:37 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: billhowardPrinceton fan on Facebook casts aspersions on the Big Red.

Hope he/she is not a Princeton grad with "Bi-week"

Ken711

Quote from: billhowardPrinceton fan on Facebook casts aspersions on the Big Red.

Cornell is pacing themselves to save their best for the final 3 games of the season. ::rolleyes::

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardPrinceton fan on Facebook casts aspersions on the Big Red.

Hope he/she is not a Princeton grad with "Bi-week"

Sounds homophobic to me!  ::doh::


Weder

Quote from: Ken711https://cornellsun.com/2018/10/29/guest-column-after-66-0-drubbing-its-time-for-cornell-to-invest-in-higher-profile-athletics/

Wait, the women's lacrosse team uses the *visiting* men's locker room at Lynah? That's just a room
with some hooks on a wall, isn't it? I sure hope the writer is mixing up that locker room with the old CU men's or women's locker rooms.
3/8/96

Scersk '97

Quote from: Ken711https://cornellsun.com/2018/10/29/guest-column-after-66-0-drubbing-its-time-for-cornell-to-invest-in-higher-profile-athletics/

Exhorting the powers that be to renew the Syracuse–Cornell football rivalry after a 66–0 drubbing at the hands of Princeton seems... quixotic.

CAS

Bravo to Mark Wolcott, the author of the Sun piece.  His family is a major donor to Cornell athletics.  If we want to be competitive in athletics, we need to make it a priority, invest the necessary resources, & hold those who work in athletics accountable for their results.  It costs a lot to win, & even more to lose...

Trotsky

In all honesty why would we invest in a dying sport?

I'd prefer it if the Ivies all dropped football in unison.

underskill

all well and good, but I'd invest in hockey, lacrosse, wrestling - i.e. sports we can be/are nationally competitive at

CAS

More boys aged 14-17 are still playing football than any other sport. The Ivies will continue to play football.  The question is are we satisfied with winning 25% of our games, or do we want to be competitive.  I care more about hockey & lacrosse than football, but we should at least be competitive in all the higher profile sports.
We don't need to worry about wrestling having sufficient resources.

TimV

Quote from: TrotskyIn all honesty why would we invest in a dying sport?

I'd prefer it if the Ivies all dropped football in unison.

Because some of us still enjoy playing and/or watching?

Pro Choice.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Trotsky

Hey, football's fine if that's what you're into -- I've watched most of the Cornell games on ESPN+ this year.  But I don't see any point in throwing any more resources at a behemoth which already warps and distends athletic budgets and gender balance.  And attempting to gain Ivy football dominance is a bit like trying to win the Special Olympics.  It makes the disabled participants feel empowered, and that's laudable, but it's part vanity project and part hot house flower competition.

Ken711

Quote from: CASMore boys aged 14-17 are still playing football than any other sport. The Ivies will continue to play football.  The question is are we satisfied with winning 25% of our games, or do we want to be competitive.  I care more about hockey & lacrosse than football, but we should at least be competitive in all the higher profile sports.
We don't need to worry about wrestling having sufficient resources.

Great points!  Certainly, building an indoor practice facility with Ithaca's climate challenges would greatly benefit a lot of both men's and women's sports (i.e., football, lacrosse, baseball, softball, etc.).

Swampy

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: CASMore boys aged 14-17 are still playing football than any other sport. The Ivies will continue to play football.  The question is are we satisfied with winning 25% of our games, or do we want to be competitive.  I care more about hockey & lacrosse than football, but we should at least be competitive in all the higher profile sports.
We don't need to worry about wrestling having sufficient resources.

Great points!  Certainly, building an indoor practice facility with Ithaca's climate challenges would greatly benefit a lot of both men's and women's sports (i.e., football, lacrosse, baseball, softball, etc.).

This seems like such a no-brainer that one wonders why it's not already the highest priority in the athletics budget.

Roy 82

Quote from: TrotskyHey, football's fine if that's what you're into -- I've watched most of the Cornell games on ESPN+ this year.  But I don't see any point in throwing any more resources at a behemoth which already warps and distends athletic budgets and gender balance.  And attempting to gain Ivy football dominance is a bit like trying to win the Special Olympics.  It makes the disabled participants feel empowered, and that's laudable, but it's part vanity project and part hot house flower competition.

I am conflicted about football. I still enjoy jumping n the bandwagon when a team I should like is playing well. But my reasons for trying to give up football is twofold 1) Your point about the Ivies being in lower division and therefore prohibited from ever being among the tops in the nation 2) CTE

Has football faced up to the issues around CTE and is there a path forward? I am not sure that banning certain kinds of practce and more strictly enforcing the rules is enough. Unlike hockey (which also has serious issues with CTE) eliminating head to head contact would require fundamental rule changes.