Men's basketball 2018-19

Started by billhoward, May 30, 2018, 07:52:13 AM

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Ken711

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: mountainredUgly loss to Colgate 73-57.  Basically, the Big Red looked awful.  They couldn't shoot (4 of 28 from behind the arc) and the Raiders got to the basket with ease (they had 54 points in the paint).

Nobody is as bad as their worst loss, but the team I watched today finishes last in the Ivy.

Interior defense is nonexistent

Cornell needs to bring in size at center, whether it's a JUCO transfer or recruited freshman.

scoop85

Delaware leads at the half 35-23.  Adding insult to injury, Nobal Days, a 3-star big guy who had Cornell in his final 3 along with Wisconsin and Tulane, announced today he's going to Tulane. We seem to be falling further behind in the recruiting race against the other Ivies, and with Morgan gone after this year we may be looking at even leaner times.

mountainred

Quote from: scoop85Delaware leads at the half 35-23.  Adding insult to injury, Nobal Days, a 3-star big guy who had Cornell in his final 3 along with Wisconsin and Tulane, announced today he's going to Tulane. We seem to be falling further behind in the recruiting race against the other Ivies, and with Morgan gone after this year we may be looking at even leaner times.

The second half wasn't any better.  Cornell closed on a 16-6 run and still lost by 17.  Other than Matt and Jimmy Boeheim, no one can shoot.  

Some of these guys are better players than they've looked the last two games.  But right now, Stone looks like he made the right call.

scoop85

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: scoop85Delaware leads at the half 35-23.  Adding insult to injury, Nobal Days, a 3-star big guy who had Cornell in his final 3 along with Wisconsin and Tulane, announced today he's going to Tulane. We seem to be falling further behind in the recruiting race against the other Ivies, and with Morgan gone after this year we may be looking at even leaner times.

The second half wasn't any better.  Cornell closed on a 16-6 run and still lost by 17.  Other than Matt and Jimmy Boeheim, no one can shoot.  

Some of these guys are better players than they've looked the last two games.  But right now, Stone looks like he made the right call.

And the fact that neither of the JUCO guys we brought in this year are in the rotation implies neither of them will be real contributors to the program, since you would expect JUCO transfers to have more of an immediate impact than freshmen. I thought Earl would be able to bring in better talent to Ithaca, but so far Boeheim looks like the best guy he's recruited.

mountainred

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: scoop85Delaware leads at the half 35-23.  Adding insult to injury, Nobal Days, a 3-star big guy who had Cornell in his final 3 along with Wisconsin and Tulane, announced today he's going to Tulane. We seem to be falling further behind in the recruiting race against the other Ivies, and with Morgan gone after this year we may be looking at even leaner times.

The second half wasn't any better.  Cornell closed on a 16-6 run and still lost by 17.  Other than Matt and Jimmy Boeheim, no one can shoot.  

Some of these guys are better players than they've looked the last two games.  But right now, Stone looks like he made the right call.

And the fact that neither of the JUCO guys we brought in this year are in the rotation implies neither of them will be real contributors to the program, since you would expect JUCO transfers to have more of an immediate impact than freshmen. I thought Earl would be able to bring in better talent to Ithaca, but so far Boeheim looks like the best guy he's recruited.

Mack is beginning to sneak into the rotation, he got 7 minutes tonight, but he hasn't done much in those minutes.  Compare that to Julian who started out of the gate last year and made an immediate impact.

I still think McBride can play, I thought he was easily the best freshman last year, but he may be even more passive on offense this year (and his shooting slump isn't helping).  Boeheim has improved his game this off-season, but I'm not sure his ceiling is much more than solid starter. You need those, but that better not be your best player.  Kuhn is also improved and could be a decent rotation guy, but he's still a work in process.  That's too many "buts" for the best recruits over the last three years.

The last two games were supposed to be toss-up, go down to the last possession match ups.  Neither was close.  Long season and all that, but this looks grim.

rss77

Looking at the lineup out there at times outside of Boeheim or Morgan who else can put points up? Prognosis even in league play looks pretty grim.

scoop85

Quote from: rss77Looking at the lineup out there at times outside of Boeheim or Morgan who else can put points up? Prognosis even in league play looks pretty grim.

Gordon had some nice games last year, but he's been off this year.  Also I thought Whiteside and Davis could contribute more this year, so hopefully that will come.

mountainred

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Quote from: rss77Looking at the lineup out there at times outside of Boeheim or Morgan who else can put points up? Prognosis even in league play looks pretty grim.

Gordon had some nice games last year, but he's been off this year.  Also I thought Whiteside and Davis could contribute more this year, so hopefully that will come.

McBride, Whiteside, Gordon and Kuhn are 2 for 32 from behind the arc so far this season.  They aren't that bad.  Julian is shooting 21% from the field.  He shot about 50% last year.  Those numbers should improve, which will help the offense overall.

Chaz Mack was a 20p-10r player at his JUCO, so cross your fingers that it clicks for him this season.  Half of that production would be really helpful.

mountainred

I only caught the second half, but Cornell finds its offense and beats NJIT 86-73.  Everyone who played shot at least 50%.  Morgan had 35, Boeheim 15 and Gordon 10.  Julian grabbed 8 rebounds and hit his shots.  

Next up is UConn, who beat Syracuse, but is probably smarting after getting handled by Iowa.  Even a great game will probably not be enough.

scoop85

Big Red trails UCONN 49-33 at the half.  We wouldn't beat them in any event, but the officiating is a joke.  We get called for breathing on their guys, while they maul us and nothing is called.

billhoward

What are the odds the streak continues? Is this like the Polish cavalry charging German tanks in 1939? In text, Cornell puts the streak in perspective: "Cornell's modest three-game road streak is the longest since 2012-13." Good luck, Cornell.

[edit add:] Final 91-74, 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25. The line was Cornell + 15 (to make the score even).

Ken711


Beeeej

Quote from: billhowardWhat are the odds the streak continues? Is this like the Polish cavalry charging German tanks in 1939? In text, Cornell puts the streak in perspective: "Cornell's modest three-game road streak is the longest since 2012-13." Good luck, Cornell.

[edit add:] Final 91-74, 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25. The line was Cornell + 15 (to make the score even).

17 points is 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25?

We literally forgot to watch the game last night, but when we checked the final score we were actually impressed by the respectable result. The second half was 43-41 UConn, which is really kind of amazing, unless they had all their scrubs in.
Beeeej, Esq.

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ugarte

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: billhowardWhat are the odds the streak continues? Is this like the Polish cavalry charging German tanks in 1939? In text, Cornell puts the streak in perspective: "Cornell's modest three-game road streak is the longest since 2012-13." Good luck, Cornell.

[edit add:] Final 91-74, 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25. The line was Cornell + 15 (to make the score even).

17 points is 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25?

We literally forgot to watch the game last night, but when we checked the final score we were actually impressed by the respectable result. The second half was 43-41 UConn, which is really kind of amazing, unless they had all their scrubs in.
The first time I checked it was 23-20 Cornell, and I tried to watch the game but found out it was blacked out in NYC. The next time I checked it was 48-33 UConn and I stopped checking.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: billhowardWhat are the odds the streak continues? Is this like the Polish cavalry charging German tanks in 1939? In text, Cornell puts the streak in perspective: "Cornell's modest three-game road streak is the longest since 2012-13." Good luck, Cornell.

[edit add:] Final 91-74, 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25. The line was Cornell + 15 (to make the score even).

17 points is 2 points shy of losing by an almost-reasonable 25?

We literally forgot to watch the game last night, but when we checked the final score we were actually impressed by the respectable result. The second half was 43-41 UConn, which is really kind of amazing, unless they had all their scrubs in.
The first time I checked it was 23-20 Cornell, and I tried to watch the game but found out it was blacked out in NYC. The next time I checked it was 48-33 UConn and I stopped checking.

Honestly, there wasn't much to see.  It was close for a while thanks to some hot shooting, then UConn hit the jets and opened up a 20 point lead.  The Huskies played with a decided lack of urgency after that, playing just hard enough to keep it around 20.  If not for Morgan, this would have been truly ugly.