Cornell lacrosse 2019

Started by billhoward, May 29, 2018, 07:15:33 AM

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Swampy

Quote from: rss77Was impressed with Andrews at faceoff X. He is tough and fast.  Albany was winning faceoffs with wing play.  Cornell's wings just couldn't seem to come up with ground balls on a consistent basis.

This is something I don't really understand. Being an elite FOGO takes special skill; I get it. But ground balls are something all field players have to master and practice. Of course, if we're talking top-level DI talent against a bunch of walk-ons, we'd expect the former group to dominate. But if two teams with top-tier talent meet each other, then I'd expect their ground-ball prowess to be roughly equal and the ground-ball battles to be won more or less equally, at least in the limited context of faceoffs.

upprdeck

a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Swampy

Quote from: upprdecka lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdecka lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.

It's really similar to hockey.

Each face-off guy has his set of moves. You've probably seen a face-off player moving his teammates around depending upon what he'll try to do.

But sometimes that move is just to confuse the opponent.
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mike1960

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdecka lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.

It's really similar to hockey.

Each face-off guy has his set of moves. You've probably seen a face-off player moving his teammates around depending upon what he'll try to do.

But sometimes that move is just to confuse the opponent.

We had some success against Lehigh's Gaffney with a long pole. Gaffney is a very good FOGO guy, but it appears he isn't the best ball handler. I think it was Salvatore who took the ball from Gaffney a few times after Gaffney controlled the face.

billhoward

Good, I'm not alone in being told the event ended. When it was the last 5 minutes. Sheesh.

billhoward

Quote from: upprdeckreally, considering the penalty and face off issues ...
We can learn to take fewer penalties. Three games in, our faceoff percentage so far is .369. TD Ierlan at Yale is at .768.

Cop at Lynah

With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking.  Blessing or curse ?

ugarte

Quote from: Cop at LynahWith #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking.  Blessing or curse ?
insanity. 3-0, but all against unranked teams and all close calls. i haven't even watched anyone else and can't believe this team is going to scoop up that many votes.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Cop at LynahWith #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking.  Blessing or curse ?
insanity. 3-0, but all against unranked teams and all close calls. i haven't even watched anyone else and can't believe this team is going to scoop up that many votes.
Towson #1, unbeaten with wins over Loyola and Hopkins.
Al DeFlorio '65

woodpile

Correcting the face-off problems is a difficult task.  Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.

Trotsky

Quote from: woodpileCorrecting the face-off problems is a difficult task.  Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.
Don't they both come down to: try somebody else?

billhoward

Quote from: Cop at LynahWith #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking.  Blessing or curse ?
No. 2, with Towson going from 7 to 1 in media poll.

March 4, 2019
1. Towson
2. Cornell
3. Loyola
4T. Penn State
4T. Yale

Has Chase Ierlan ever tried taking faceoffs? Maybe for him the G in FOGO would stand for Goalie. Just gotta figure out what the second O means.

Or: When is wrestling season over?

KenP

The #1, #2 and #4 teams in the country... organizers of the Crown Lacrosse Classic are wetting themselves from excitement.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: woodpileCorrecting the face-off problems is a difficult task.  Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.
Don't they both come down to: try somebody else?
At goalie, there are two potential #1 candidates so that's basically right.

FOGO is a little different. It's a specialist position, where our guy would be facing a specialist. Right now our best FOGO is hurt, the backup is not doing that well but not totally killing us and there doesn't seem to be any one else the coach trusts more than a couple of times a game.

If Galadja and McGrath were hitting a rough patch Schafer wouldn't consider putting the pads on Bramwell. DO NOT RESPOND WITH THE NAME OF OUR THIRD-STRING GOALIE JUST BECAUSE I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.