Fake News?

[Johnny 5]

Ok,...we sweep the weekend, lock up the Ivy title, move into first place in the ECAC, and COLGATE gets the lead USCHO article because they beat Harvard!? WTF!!

Let's all genuflect before the throne of Colton Point? Not.

::bang::

Honestly, buddy, you're starting to sound like a whining, entitled brat. You want a feature article on Cornell every freakin' week?! Even the article on Colgate shutting out Harvard talked about Cornell and Galajda. It might be hard to swallow, but very few people care about the Ivy title, and it's not as interesting when we win the fifth game in a row that we're supposed to win.

Wait! Being a whining, entitled brat...that's a bad thing?!
And, yes, I'd love several articles about Cornell. At least weekly, if not daily.
Guess I'm an obsessed fan, too? Plus, I remember the Reycroft years.
Lo siento.

::whistle::

[billhoward]

... and apparently still hasn't learned the difference between "freshman" and "freshmen."

Soon to be replaced by "first-year."
Then there is the retronym "true freshman" to distinguish from "redshirt freshman." "Freshman" and "redshirt freshman" works for me.

William Safire was a charming guy in person and also painfully unhappy with change. He did a column on retronyms ("a new term created from an existing word in order to distinguish it from the meaning that has emerged through progress or technological development (e.g., cloth diaper is a retronym...)."  Safire cited "corded drill" but then couldn't help himself and lamented about the need for the term "English-language radio."

[Swampy]

... and apparently still hasn't learned the difference between "freshman" and "freshmen."

Soon to be replaced by "first-year."
Then there is the retronym "true freshman" to distinguish from "redshirt freshman." "Freshman" and "redshirt freshman" works for me.

William Safire was a charming guy in person and also painfully unhappy with change. He did a column on retronyms ("a new term created from an existing word in order to distinguish it from the meaning that has emerged through progress or technological development (e.g., cloth diaper is a retronym...)."  Safire cited "corded drill" but then couldn't help himself and lamented about the need for the term "English-language radio."

Isn't "first-year" also used to de-gender the noun? (Although first-year seems more naturally used as an adjective.) Would we now have "freshwoman" and "redshirt freshwoman"? Or, perhaps "freshperson" and "redshirt freshperson"?

Also, is it ever the case that a player will actually play their first year in college but then sit out a later year? We already have "medical redshirt" for cases in which a player is unable to play because of injury. But, especially in factory schools, I can imagine, say, the starting and backup quarterbacks going down, so the coach plays a new recruit who otherwise would be redshirting; then the next year, the now-sophomore recruit sits out. Do things like this happen regularly?

[Trotsky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goVSQnYnfxk

18.

2.

and 1.

The rest is silence.

[RichH]

My favorite moment from the Saturday wrap up pieces comes from CHN in consecutive paragraphs:

Harvard is comfortably in fourth place in the ECAC standings, good enough to earn a bye to the league's quarterfinals.

Colgate moves into a fifth-place tie with Dartmouth. The Raiders are just two games back of Harvard with two games in hand.

It's comfortable, except when it's not.

[Jim Hyla]

... and apparently still hasn't learned the difference between "freshman" and "freshmen."

Soon to be replaced by "first-year."
Then there is the retronym "true freshman" to distinguish from "redshirt freshman." "Freshman" and "redshirt freshman" works for me.

William Safire was a charming guy in person and also painfully unhappy with change. He did a column on retronyms ("a new term created from an existing word in order to distinguish it from the meaning that has emerged through progress or technological development (e.g., cloth diaper is a retronym...)."  Safire cited "corded drill" but then couldn't help himself and lamented about the need for the term "English-language radio."

Isn't "first-year" also used to de-gender the noun? (Although first-year seems more naturally used as an adjective.) Would we now have "freshwoman" and "redshirt freshwoman"? Or, perhaps "freshperson" and "redshirt freshperson"?

Also, is it ever the case that a player will actually play their first year in college but then sit out a later year? We already have "medical redshirt" for cases in which a player is unable to play because of injury. But, especially in factory schools, I can imagine, say, the starting and backup quarterbacks going down, so the coach plays a new recruit who otherwise would be redshirting; then the next year, the now-sophomore recruit sits out. Do things like this happen regularly?

Medical training sort of went through this. Back in the dark ages, when I went through, there were interns and residents. For most fields you did 1 year as intern and then residency, but in some you went straight to residency. Now almost all say R1, R2, etc. So come up with a generic nomenclature and become famous.

[Beeeej]

Hey, look, a feature on CHN.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/01/28_Roundup-Cornell,-BC-at-the.php

[abmarks]

Ok,...we sweep the weekend, lock up the Ivy title, move into first place in the ECAC, and COLGATE gets the lead USCHO article because they beat Harvard!? WTF!!

Let's all genuflect before the throne of Colton Point? Not.

::bang::

Honestly, buddy, you're starting to sound like a whining, entitled brat. You want a feature article on Cornell every freakin' week?! Even the article on Colgate shutting out Harvard talked about Cornell and Galajda. It might be hard to swallow, but very few people care about the Ivy title, and it's not as interesting when we win the fifth game in a row that we're supposed to win.

Wait! Being a whining, entitled brat...that's a bad thing?!
And, yes, I'd love several articles about Cornell. At least weekly, if not daily.
Guess I'm an obsessed fan, too? Plus, I remember the Reycroft years.
Lo siento.

::whistle::

What does that all have to do with the need to "read your own press clippings"?

Being obsessed with your team and it's success is a good thing.  But bitching about not enough press coverage is amateur hour.  

And as to us deserving coverage or not:  ok, we've got #1 in PWR and KRACH and the best win percentage in the country.  But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

[Trotsky]

But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

I'm sure it will, but it's silly because SOS is baked into the ranking.

[ugarte]

But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

I'm sure it will, but it's silly because SOS is baked into the ranking.

Eh. It's baked in to the ranking but that's why you need to limit your reliance on the computers. The SOS doesn't adjust for margin of victory as far as I'm aware and for a team with such a great record there are an awful lot of 1 goal wins against teams like Niagara and Princeton.

I am enjoying this run and will enjoy it as far as we go. Cornell is obviously a tournament-quality team - and can beat any team on the right day - but I think the skepticism that Cornell is at top 2 team is entirely fair despite what the computers say.

[Trotsky]

But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

I'm sure it will, but it's silly because SOS is baked into the ranking.

Eh. It's baked in to the ranking but that's why you need to limit your reliance on the computers. The SOS doesn't adjust for margin of victory as far as I'm aware and for a team with such a great record there are an awful lot of 1 goal wins against teams like Niagara and Princeton.

I am enjoying this run and will enjoy it as far as we go. Cornell is obviously a tournament-quality team - and can beat any team on the right day - but I think the skepticism that Cornell is at top 2 team is entirely fair despite what the computers say.

"Everyone has an algorithm 'till they get punched in the mouth." - ugarte

[abmarks]

But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

I'm sure it will, but it's silly because SOS is baked into the ranking.

If by ranking, you mean PWR or KRACH, then you're certainly correct.  I'm talking about straight up opinions, not computer rankings.

I was really getting at possible reason we might not be getting the kind of press Johnny5 would like.  If we looked at subjective opinions, and ignored the computer, there are probably a lot of people of the mindset that "Cornell's record is impressive, but they've played a weak-ass schedule."

It'll be interesting to see if the polls on Monday are basically PWR proxies or not.  I'd expect that in a straight coaches poll where no one knew the computer numbers, we are lower in that poll than in the PWR or KRACH, due to SOS.

[upprdeck]

I have seen almost every game this year.  I am not convinced we are the best team, but I also dont think we have played poorly in more than 2-3 games and thats not something most of these teams can say.. We might not  have the highest high because we dont have the offensive skill, but we also play at a level close to our best in almost every game and often in hockey that is what leads to pretty good records. Some of the so called teams that are better probably have more scoring types, but dont always get the solid D and goal tending.

[ursusminor]

https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/957719564363714560

[Jim Hyla]

But look at our SOS- I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor in people believing we are the real deal at a national level.

I'm sure it will, but it's silly because SOS is baked into the ranking.

Eh. It's baked in to the ranking but that's why you need to limit your reliance on the computers. The SOS doesn't adjust for margin of victory as far as I'm aware and for a team with such a great record there are an awful lot of 1 goal wins against teams like Niagara and Princeton.

I am enjoying this run and will enjoy it as far as we go. Cornell is obviously a tournament-quality team - and can beat any team on the right day - but I think the skepticism that Cornell is at top 2 team is entirely fair despite what the computers say.

Totally agree, but it sure is more fun bitching about these things, compared to some bitching from recent years.