Bracketology Starts

Started by Jim Hyla, January 17, 2018, 05:44:32 PM

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upprdeck

most posts i see think cornell plays BU in Mass..  still dont see them doing that with bu being such a low seed and cornell so high

Beeeej

Adam's "final" projection:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/17_Bracket-ABCs-Final-Projection.php

Sioux Falls
1. St. Cloud State vs. 16. Air Force
8. Michigan vs. 9. Northeastern

Allentown
3. Cornell vs. 15. Michigan Tech
5. Denver vs. 11. Penn State

Worcester
4. Ohio State vs. 13. Boston University
6. Minnesota State vs. 12. Minnesota-Duluth

Bridgeport
2. Notre Dame vs. 14. Princeton
7. Providence vs. 10. Clarkson
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BigRedHockeyFan

I think Cornell vs. BU is inevitable for historical reasons.  

For the rest, I admit I am making guesses.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: upprdeckmost posts i see think cornell plays BU in Mass..  still don't see them doing that with bu being such a low seed and cornell so high

I personally think it's CU-BU in Bridgeport.

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLoverWTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

Because typically you assign teams to the regionals in order from highest seed to lowest, so BU will get assigned before MTU.
There's no rule you have to assign them that way. There are 16 teams here, it's not rocket science. We/the selection committee are smart enough to figure it out without such heuristics.

Swampy

Quote from: upprdeckmost posts i see think cornell plays BU in Mass..  still dont see them doing that with bu being such a low seed and cornell so high

It's the numbers. #3 vs #13.

But maybe we could make a "donation," or perhaps buy some real estate at 3 times its market value, to persuade the committee to send BU to SF.

Beeeej

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLoverWTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

Because typically you assign teams to the regionals in order from highest seed to lowest, so BU will get assigned before MTU.
There's no rule you have to assign them that way. There are 16 teams here, it's not rocket science. We/the selection committee are smart enough to figure it out without such heuristics.

I didn't say there's a rule. I said typically. You're aiming for a particular result, the committee has a process. You asked, and I answered.

12 hours, 28 minutes.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

upprdeck

the rules i read said after the first 8 seeds and home placed teams anything within band goes as needed

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: BeeeejAdam's "final" projection:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/17_Bracket-ABCs-Final-Projection.php

Sioux Falls
1. St. Cloud State vs. 16. Air Force
8. Michigan vs. 9. Northeastern

Allentown
3. Cornell vs. 15. Michigan Tech
5. Denver vs. 11. Penn State

Worcester
4. Ohio State vs. 13. Boston University
6. Minnesota State vs. 12. Minnesota-Duluth

Bridgeport
2. Notre Dame vs. 14. Princeton
7. Providence vs. 10. Clarkson

From his mouth to God's ears!  I would take that in a heartbeat.  That saves me vacation time, fuel costs, and I get to sleep in my own bed.  

So it'll never happen.  ::bang::

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLoverWTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

Because typically you assign teams to the regionals in order from highest seed to lowest, so BU will get assigned before MTU.
There's no rule you have to assign them that way. There are 16 teams here, it's not rocket science. We/the selection committee are smart enough to figure it out without such heuristics.

I didn't say there's a rule. I said typically. You're aiming for a particular result, the committee has a process. You asked, and I answered.
"Typically"=/=the committe's process. But who says that's even the committee's process? Or that the committee has a process?

But yes, no use arguing about it.

redliner

Here's Jayson Moy from USCHO's bracket

Midwest Regional (Allentown):
14 Princeton vs. 2 Notre Dame
11 Penn State vs. 6 Minnesota State

East Regional (Bridgeport):
15 Michigan Tech vs. 3 Cornell
12 Minnesota Duluth vs. 7 Providence

West Regional (Sioux Falls):
16 Air Force vs. 1 St. Cloud State
9 Northeastern vs. 8 Michigan

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
13 Boston University vs. 4 Ohio State
10 Clarkson vs. 5 Denver

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2018/03/17/final-bracketology-a-prediction-for-the-2018-ncaa-mens-hockey-tournament/

upprdeck

if we get allentown and PSU tickets might be scarce they are already gone on ticketmaster, some on stubhub and who knows how many CU gets

BigRedHockeyFan

I think Adam knows this business better than me.  

BTW, who the heck chose Allentown?

andyw2100

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: BeeeejAdam's "final" projection:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/17_Bracket-ABCs-Final-Projection.php

Sioux Falls
1. St. Cloud State vs. 16. Air Force
8. Michigan vs. 9. Northeastern

Allentown
3. Cornell vs. 15. Michigan Tech
5. Denver vs. 11. Penn State

Worcester
4. Ohio State vs. 13. Boston University
6. Minnesota State vs. 12. Minnesota-Duluth

Bridgeport
2. Notre Dame vs. 14. Princeton
7. Providence vs. 10. Clarkson

From his mouth to God's ears!  I would take that in a heartbeat.  That saves me vacation time, fuel costs, and I get to sleep in my own bed.  

So it'll never happen.  ::bang::

From a "fairness" standpoint, Adam's bracket makes sense.

Cornell benefits from playing a seed one lower than the "right" one in the first round, but should they advance, they play a seed one higher than the right one in the second round. (Assuming the higher seed wins.)

In the other affected regional, OSU has to play a team seeded one higher than the right seed in the first round, but should they advance they then get to play a team one lower than the right seed in the regional championship. (Again, assuming the higher seed wins.)

upprdeck

I like how Cornell has known for weeks we were getting in and no mention or email about the process or when tickets might go on sale has happened..

I got emails for syracuse days in advance for tickets that wouldnt even exist unless they won a game in bball.