Bracketology Starts

[upprdeck]

given this bracket..  

scs/mich will bring fans.. UND fans will be dumping tickets they already bought

OSu/PSU in allentown will bring a good crowd.

cornell will bring some.  BU will bring some.  do mankato or duluth travel that well?

ND will have fans. clarkson travels some, do they in the ncaa?  prov will have fans, not sure on MT.

[Swampy]

I think Jeff has it right, with the ND group in Worcester. If you're going to reward a team with what's essentially a home game, reward #7 instead of #13.

To be fair, I'm not sure Bridgeport is any less a home game for Providence than Worcester.  It's an hour's drive versus about 45 minutes.  But I agree with your sentiment.  That said #13 just won the head-to-head against #7, so who's to say they don't reward that.

More like 2 hrs to Bridgeport. Your other points are good ones. If I'm the committee, I'm trying to find a way to match Cornell & BU with teams they haven't already played this year. Not sure if that's doable, but that's why they pay the committee the big bucks.

[abmarks]

really makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

I came up with the exact same bracket as beej.  And CU/BU will be in worcester, for attendance.  Pretty sure this type of thing has happened before where a #4 band seed got a home game for attendance. Was it Providence IIRC?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

And AFAIC, as long as it isn't Sioux F-ing Falls, I don't care where we play.  

Well, TBH, I'd really prefer us to be here in Allentown, but I don't think that'll happen.

[BearLover]

Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.

Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.

Right, and my example above is the same number of switches as this example

Unless I'm missing something, you have to move one of those teams twice to get the result you're talking about, and there's no reason to move them the second time. In any event, this is still all speculation, and we'll know in 12 hours and 47 minutes.

The "fair" matchups are
2v15, 3v14, 4v13

In Jeff Hopkins' example, he swaps the 13 and the 14. In my example, I swap the 15 and the 14.

[andyw2100]

I'm just really tickled that the Gophers missed making the tournament by one ten-thousandth of a point. According to the Big Ten Network commentators, six games tonight had to all go the way they did for Minnesota to not make the tourney.

[BigRedHockeyFan]

One Possibility

Sioux Falls
St. Cloud(1) vs. AF(16)
Michigan( vs. Northeastern(9)

Allentown
Notre Dame(2) vs. Mich Tech(15)
Minn St.(6) vs. Clarkson(10)

Worcester
Cornell(3) vs BU(13)
Providence(7) vs. Penn St.(11)

Bridgeport
Ohio St.(4) vs. Princeton(14)
Denver(5) vs. Minn Duluth(12)

[Beeeej]

One Possibility

Sioux Falls
St. Cloud(1) Vs. AF(16)
Michigan( vs. Northeastern(9)

Allentown
Notre Dame(2) vs. Mich Tech(15)
Minn St.(6) vs. Clarkson(10)

Worcester
Cornell(3) vs BU(13)
Providence(7) vs. Penn St.(11)

Bridgeport
Ohio St.(4) vs. Princeton(14)
Denver(5) vs. Minn Duluth(12)

Doesn't Penn State have to stay in Allentown?

[BearLover]

WTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

One Possibility

Sioux Falls
St. Cloud(1) vs. AF(16)
Michigan( vs. Northeastern(9)

Allentown
Notre Dame(2) vs. Mich Tech(15)
Minn St.(6) vs. Clarkson(10)

Worcester
Cornell(3) vs BU(13)
Providence(7) vs. Penn St.(11)

Bridgeport
Ohio St.(4) vs. Princeton(14)
Denver(5) vs. Minn Duluth(12)

Denver can't play Duluth.  Penn State has to play in Allentown (they're the host).  And the attendance in Bridgeport would suck with that bracket.

[Swampy]

One Possibility

Sioux Falls
St. Cloud(1) Vs. AF(16)
Michigan( vs. Northeastern(9)

Allentown
Notre Dame(2) vs. Mich Tech(15)
Minn St.(6) vs. Clarkson(10)

Worcester
Cornell(3) vs BU(13)
Providence(7) vs. Penn St.(11)

Bridgeport
Ohio St.(4) vs. Princeton(14)
Denver(5) vs. Minn Duluth(12)

Why would you put the #6 in the same bracket as the #2 and the #7 with the #3?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

WTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

Because, I'd rather play Tech, and if I keep saying they'll match us against BU, maybe we'll get Tech instead ::whistle::

[BigRedHockeyFan]

Doesn't Penn State have to stay in Allentown?

That causes other problems but you are probably right.

[Beeeej]

WTF why does everyone keep pairing Cornell vs BU? Pair them vs Michigan Tech, an equally valid opponent, and one that Cornell won't be sub-45% to beat... ::crazy::

Because typically you assign teams to the regionals in order from highest seed to lowest, so BU will get assigned before MTU.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Doesn't Penn State have to stay in Allentown?

That causes other problems but you are probably right.

He is right.