Bracketology Starts

Started by Jim Hyla, January 17, 2018, 05:44:32 PM

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upprdeck

really makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: upprdeckreally makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

According to CHN, we're still a 3.

BearLover

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

upprdeck

since the first rule is less travel why wouldnt ND go to allentown? or is it far enough that flying throws that rule out?

Swampy

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

upprdeck

crazy it just changed back to 3..

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

You might, rabbit.  You might.  But I suspect the committee might like the CU-BU rivalry.  Then again, we've already played each other this year, so they may consider that, too.

Swampy

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: upprdeckreally makes no sense to reward BU with a home game though as a 4 seed.

strange how PWR changed though since that same set of winners an hr ago left us a 3..

According to CHN, we're still a 3.

Both USCHO & CHN have us #3 now. I guess tOSU losing knocked them down to #4. (Of course, us losing last night didn't help us either.)

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.
Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Beeeej

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Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.
Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.

Yes, I was doing that as much as possible.  But we can't play Princeton, and Denver can't play Duluth, so I swapped Princeton and BU to fix the first, and PSU and UMD to fix the second.  That preserves "Bracket Integrity" for two brackets, and helps attendance for a third.

Swampy

I think Jeff has it right, with the ND group in Worcester. If you're going to reward a team with what's essentially a home game, reward #7 instead of #13.

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.
Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.
Right, and my example above is the same number of switches as this example

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: SwampyI think Jeff has it right, with the ND group in Worcester. If you're going to reward a team with what's essentially a home game, reward #7 instead of #13.

To be fair, I'm not sure Bridgeport is any less a home game for Providence than Worcester.  It's an hour's drive versus about 45 minutes.  But I agree with your sentiment.  That said #13 just won the head-to-head against #7, so who's to say they don't reward that.

Beeeej

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Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame wins.  

I think two brackets are set:

1. SCSU - 8. Michigan - 9. Northeastern - 16. Air Force (Sioux Falls)
2. Notre Dame - 7. Providence - 10. Clarkson - 15. Mich. Tech

the other two Brackets are a bit trickier.  My guess is it's.

3. Cornell - 6 Mankato - 12. Duluth - 13. BU
4. OSU  - 5. Denver - 11. Penn State - 14. Princeton (Allentown)

So it comes down to whether you put us and BU in Worcester and Notre Dame / Providence / Clarkson in Bridgeport or vice versa.
Couldn't you just as easily give Cornell Mich Tech, give Ohio State BU, and give Notre Dame Princeton?

I think he's matching the #1 seeds according to their finish in the pairwise: 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, & 4-13.
Cornell is the 3 matched with the 13 in this

Yes, but we can't play Princeton in the first round, so you make as few switches as possible to fix that.
Right, and my example above is the same number of switches as this example

Unless I'm missing something, you have to move one of those teams twice to get the result you're talking about, and there's no reason to move them the second time. In any event, this is still all speculation, and we'll know in 12 hours and 47 minutes.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona