Recruits 2018 (and beyond)

Started by scoop85, December 19, 2017, 08:59:01 PM

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billhoward

We only had Dryden for three years.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardWe only had Dryden for three years.
Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Larry72

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe only had Dryden for three years.
Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Yeah, by setting up Brian Cropper ::burnout::
Larry Baum '72
Ithaca, NY

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardWe only had Dryden for three years.

Yeah, but it was the last three years!

Maybe what we need to do with any blue chippahs coming in, if we get any, is to not let them play varsity their freshman year. What NHL team would want them early if they can't even make the varsity their first year here?

Trotsky

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardWe only had Dryden for three years.
Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Yeah, by setting up Brian Cropper ::burnout::
I guess my timing's off the last couple days...

Trotsky

Here's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky

2018 NHL entry draft begins tonight.  A quick perusal of the final Central Scouting list shows zippo for us.

ursusminor

Quote from: TrotskyHere's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless"). Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.


RPI's list also included Donavan Ott who already played during the second semester of last season.

Trotsky

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyHere's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless"). Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.

Would you mind terribly transcribing the Cornell recruit profiles?  I would greatly appreciate that.

ursusminor

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyHere's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless"). Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.

Would you mind terribly transcribing the Cornell recruit profiles?  I would greatly appreciate that.

I have not done that for any RPI recruit feeling that it is copyrighted. Thus I won't do that for other schools either. While I haven't checked any of the Cornell players, there are some RPI recuits whom they have scouted on about 10 occasions, so it would be quite lengthy.

I can give the number of stars they have been awarded since they tweet these often. These are whom they have included for 2018:
Maxim Andreyev 4
Chase Brakel 3.75
Sebastian Dirven 4
Joey Kubachka 3.5
Joseph Leahy 4
Nate McDonald 3.5
Travis  Mitchell 3.75
Liam Motley 3.75
Joshua Nelson 3.5
Michael Regush 4
Andong Song 3.25

Trotsky


ursusminor

Quote from: TrotskyThank you.  Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

Trotsky

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyThank you.  Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

That seems right.

Thank you again.

BTW, Kubachka  and Nelson have decommitted.

scoop85

Incoming class is announced.  Seemingly no surprise additions or omissions.

margolism

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyThank you.  Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

Even with 4.5 stars others were selected over Kaldis in the NHL draft.