Opponents News 2: Hockey's the Reason for the Season

Started by Trotsky, December 15, 2017, 10:05:02 AM

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ugarte

Our best team since the 70's lost in the semifinals because of a bad first period that included a bullshit call that waved off a goal and a miracle save in the closing seconds. That was our championship team.

The Wisconsin and Minnesota teams we lost to in 3OT/OT were both better than our teams that year, and we essentially played them to a draw on the road. Thinking it is revisionist history or satisfaction with failure to be honest about those years is insane.

marty

Quote from: A-19
Quote from: redliner
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.

We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.

Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.

and a win over union would have flipped the RPI comparison with Notre dame and placed us in solid second chasing st cloud. instead we are barely hanging on to a top-4 position. I don't need to remind you all how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four.  we need to do the best we can to get the best seed and the best geographic and opponent draw we can.  so you bring your A-game every night and challenge other teams to beat you.  we aren't saving galadja like he's some trick play cooked up by boise state for a bowl game.  you can bet union is watching tape of galadja's games.  barring extenuating circumstances, you don't bench the best goaltender in the country to reward a senior in an away game at that, when you are chasing the championship

Apparently, you do. Sunday afternoon coaching 101.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BigRedHockeyFan


ugarte

Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanPrinceton - Clarkson 2/23/18 - Complete game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKUVDog-Bic

Quinnipiac - Clarkson 2/24/18 - Complete game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5KZMe_KMc
not that there is anything wrong with posting links to the clarkson archives per se but ... why?

Beeeej

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently.  talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
Take your derp back to the WEEI Hot Takes.  We won several games in those NC$$s and were close in several others.  Your "winning is the only thing" hurr-durr is risible braindead posturing.

It's also amazing how quickly he moved the goalposts from:
Quote from: A-19how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four

to "celebrate losses" after I pointed out how many times we'd won in the first round between 2002-03 and now because we played really fucking well. This is the first year in forever that we've had a record this beautiful - and all of a sudden you're so spoiled that coming close isn't good enough anymore, we should be making the Frozen Four every year with no academic scholarships and massively higher academic standards?
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

adamw

Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently.  talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.

This take is off-the-charts awful
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently.  talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.

This take is off-the-charts awful
We'v had a lot of that here lately.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Some quotes from USCHO TMQ.

QuoteI think Cornell could be a strong favorite in the ECAC based on how well this team played during the season, but you have so many others who could compete. Harvard may be looking at its final games with Ryan Donato and have always been a strong postseason team. Clarkson is so strong and will be an NCAA team. Even sixth-seeded Dartmouth had some great games down the stretch.

Really, Harvard always a strong post-season team?::screwy::

Dartmouth is fifth.

Editors are needed.

Oh well!
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Jim HylaSome quotes from USCHO TMQ.

QuoteI think Cornell could be a strong favorite in the ECAC based on how well this team played during the season, but you have so many others who could compete. Harvard may be looking at its final games with Ryan Donato and have always been a strong postseason team. Clarkson is so strong and will be an NCAA team. Even sixth-seeded Dartmouth had some great games down the stretch.

Really, Harvard always a strong post-season team?::screwy::

Dartmouth is fifth.

Editors are needed.

Oh well!

I read that article and thought "Not a mention of Union?"  They have no credibility.

KenP

Obviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:

"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble.  A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed

Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU.  Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:

"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble.  A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed

Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI

Nice, thanks
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

RichH

Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:

"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble.  A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed

Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU.  Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.

Mankato, NoDak, and St. Cloud all won in the "bad news" side. CC, BU, & Canisius all won (Canisius only won 8-1), and it's always good news when Harvard loses.

According to CHN, Notre Dame leads Cornell in RPI 0.5797 to 0.5796 after Friday's games. Clarkson is down to #12. They're guaranteed to lose at most one game before the selections, so they've got that going for them. (?)

KenP

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:

"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble.  A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed

Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU.  Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.

Mankato, NoDak, and St. Cloud all won in the "bad news" side. CC, BU, & Canisius all won (Canisius only won 8-1), and it's always good news when Harvard loses.

According to CHN, Notre Dame leads Cornell in RPI 0.5797 to 0.5796 after Friday's games. Clarkson is down to #12. They're guaranteed to lose at most one game before the selections, so they've got that going for them. (?)
With the Denver loss it essentially is a 4-horse race for the last three #1 seeds. I won't call it percentage but our "likelihood score" for a #1 seed increased fron 71 to 82. I like that trend.

Trotsky

Quote from: KenPWith the Denver loss it essentially is a 4-horse race for the last three #1 seeds. I won't call it percentage but our "likelihood score" for a #1 seed increased fron 71 to 82. I like that trend.

By these numbers:

.88 Notre Dame
.82 Cornell
.81 Mankato
.55 Ohio State

I don't know why the line on that table is after 14.  Atlantic is the one conference whose highest team is outside the top 16, so why isn't the line after 15?  All I got is the line movers for HE have a > .50 chance of winning the AQ.

NoDak must go down and they must go down hard.  BU, BC, and NMU are the best bets, unless UNO can handle it directly.

Jim Hyla

Very sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care.

Here's the GoFundMe page. Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005