Opponents News 2: Hockey's the Reason for the Season

Started by Trotsky, December 15, 2017, 10:05:02 AM

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Dafatone

Quote from: RobbWithout doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.

I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.

Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.

abmarks

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RobbWithout doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.

I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.

Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.

I ran the script on chn and added only possible results for the two st cloud v Denver games.

If st cloud sweeps:

1   St. Cloud State   59   .6121
2   Notre Dame   57   .5908
3   Cornell   57   .5847
4   Minnesota State   56   .5774
5   Denver   56   .5703
6   Ohio State

If they split:
1   St. Cloud State   59   .6014
2   Notre Dame   57   .5909
3   Cornell   57   .5847
4   Denver   57   .5809
5   Minnesota State   55   .5769
6   Ohio State

Denver sweep;
1   Denver   59   .5907
2   Notre Dame   58   .5913   
3   St. Cloud State   57   .5908   
4   Cornell   56   .5848
5   Minnesota State   5765
6   Ohio State

ugarte

i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

andyw2100

Notre Dame just lost to Michigan, 1-0. Pairwise not updated yet, but I'm guessing we may be up to second.

Jim Hyla

Michigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Tcl123

Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

KenP

Quote from: Jim HylaMichigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR
Still in 3rd. Lose to Notre Dame in RPI .5848 to .5871.

scoop85

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Dafatone

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

For as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.

Tcl123

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Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

Dafatone

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.

Tcl123

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Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.

I knew that. Just saying, without looking at pairwise, Clarkson has 3 ooc opponents better than any one of ours.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.

And has played their last 4 games with senior Racine in goal as Point is injured.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Iceberg

Quote from: DafatoneFor as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.


The funny thing about Hockey East is that the team likely to finish 1st in the conference--BC--hasn't beaten a single OOC opponent. It's a good thing that the CC Rule doesn't exist anymore. The thought that at one time a team could theoretically get into the NCAA's by winning its conference is hilarious given this situation.