Polls 2017-18

[osorojo]

Worse yet, the pressure leaps to beat the team from the school where dying mothers refuse to send their sons.

[GBR1234]

Still at #4 in USA Today for 1/22... Go figure.

[upprdeck]

unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

[Trotsky]

unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

Way too early to make any statement like this.  As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it."  Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:

.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion

.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion

Que sera, sera.

[Swampy]

unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.

Way too early to make any statement like this.  As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it."  Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:

.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion

.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion

Que sera, sera.

16 teams in the NC tourney. If each team had equal probability, P[NC] = 0.0625. So P[NC] = 0.13 is not that bad.

And, as Upprdeck points out, beating Harvard and/or Clarkson is necessary to hold our position. If we do, P[NC] might even increase.

We're not yet in a position to say we will beat any other team most nights, but we are in position to say realistically we could beat any other team on a given night. Given where we started out this season, I'm overjoyed that this is where we are.

[Jim Hyla]

Here's all, except for USA Women's, which doesn't come out till tomorrow, and I refuse to be bothered by that. Or, maybe I should say, I am bothered by that.

Anyone looking for PWR, look up a number of posts.

I'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.

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USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Notre Dame (33) 19-4-1 981 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (15) 16-2-1 942 4
3 Clarkson (1) 18-4-2 873 2[/u][/b]
4 Denver        (1) 14-6-4 847 5
5 St. Cloud State 14-5-3 804 3
6 Ohio State 15-5-4 748 6
7 Minnesota State 18-7-0 696 9
8 Northeastern 15-6-3 595 8
9 Minnesota Duluth 13-9-3 573 14
10 Providence 16-8-2 543 10
11 North Dakota 12-8-6 516 7
12 Western Michigan 13-10-1 460 11
13 Minnesota 15-12-1 439 13
14 Penn State 13-10-3 233 12
15 Bowling Green 14-8-6 227 17
16 Boston College 11-9-3 222 16
17 Michigan 12-10-2 204 20
18 Wisconsin 12-12-3 164 18
19 Omaha        12-11-1 142 15
20 Northern Michigan 15-10-3 101 NR

Other Receiving Votes: [b][u]Harvard 98[/u][/b], Bemidji State 33, UMass Lowell 17,
Maine 16, Boston University 9, Michigan Tech 9, [b][u]Union 5, Colgate 3[/u][/b]  

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 22, 2018
Team               Points (First) Last Poll Record

1 University of Notre Dame503 (27) 1 19-4-1
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 469 (7) 2 18-4-2[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State Univer 430 3 14-5-3
[b][u]4 Cornell University 419 4 16-2-1[/u][/b]
5 University of Denver 374 5 14-6-4
6 Ohio State University 331 6 15-5-4
7 University North Dakota 292 7 12-8-6
8 Minnesota State Univer 231 8 18-7-0
9 Northeastern University 213 9 15-6-3
10 Providence College 199 10 16-8-2
11 Western Michigan Univer 160 11 13-10-1
12 Penn State University 150 12 13-10-3
13 Univer Minnesota Duluth 147 13 13-9-3
14 University of Minnesota 39 14 15-12-1
15 Univer Nebraska Omaha 35 15 12-11-1

Others receiving votes: Boston College 28, [b][u]Harvard University 22[/u][/b],
Bowling Green State University 21, UMass Lowell 13,
University of Michigan 3, University of Wisconsin 1.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Wisconsin(15) 24-1-1 150 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 22-3-1 121 4[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 22-2-3 119 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 21-3-1 119 2[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 17-5-4 90 7
[b][u]6 Cornell 12-6-2 71 6[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 17-8-2 63 5
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 14-7-3 32 10[/u][/b]
9 Maine 16-7-3 22 9
10 Providence 14-7-6 21 8

Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 9, Northeastern 5,
Bemidji State 2, Mercyhurst 1


[andyw2100]

Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf.

An 81% chance at being a 1-seed? I'll take that!

[JasonN95]

I'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.

The USA Today results seem weird to me, as though they took the votes Friday night and the Saturday and Sunday results aren't factored in.

[billhoward]

I see the table, I see Cornell is #2 in one poll. But, Lord, are we really the second-best time in the nation? Am I refusing to believe? Or do older alumni simply have more experience having their dreams crushed? Even the 2009 lacrosse title game makes me, ah, uncertain that we're a frozen four team let alone a potential national champion. Still, it's worth scoping out hotels for Lake Placid now.

And worth noting 3 of the 4 NCAA regional sites are driving distance.

East Regional, Webster Bank Arena – Bridgeport, Connecticut (Host: Fairfield and Yale)
Northeast Regional, DCU Center – Worcester, Massachusetts (Host: Holy Cross)
Midwest Regional, PPL Center – Allentown, Pennsylvania (Host: Penn State)
West Regional, Premier Center – Sioux Falls, South Dakota (Host: North Dakota)

St. Paul is a fabulous hockey town but it involves an airplane.

[upprdeck]

16 hrs from cornell..  one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here

[Jim Hyla]

16 hrs from cornell..  one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here

Agree, I'd probably drive, hate airports, but I'm also crazy and love to drive.

[marty]

16 hrs from cornell..  one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here

Agree, I'd probably drive, hate airports, but I'm also crazy and love to drive.

Yet I bought our tickets last week on Southwest and plan to hook up with a high school friend who will probably extol Minnesota's superiority.

Pathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances.  Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::

[Trotsky]

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[adamw]

Pathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances.  Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::

When Minnesota made the championship game in 2014, that was in the first year of the Big Ten.

[marty]

Pathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances.  Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::

When Minnesota made the championship game in 2014, that was in the first year of the Big Ten.

That's what I get for relying on a 66 year old single core processor with defective memory sectors.  ::worry::