Polls 2017-18

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

[Beeeej]

And where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?

[Trotsky]

And where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?

Feola's there.  What, you can't see him?

[Trotsky]

If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.

Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).

That would be a lot of fun.

So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.

Consider side eye given.

[Jim Hyla]

If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?

If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.

Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).

That would be a lot of fun.

So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.

Consider side eye given.

Yeah, yeah I know. I've made some progress, in that I've brought the boxes up from the basement and that means Sherri won't let me leave them in view forever.

But I don't know how I'd get you the data. Once I do an inventory, I plan on giving them to the library, and if they'd scan them and put them online, I might donate some money.

I guess once they're in Ithaca, you could view them when you come. But considering how long it's taken me to get this far (and that ain't far), I don't think you can rely upon me to get you the data.

However, it turns out I may not be going to Miami. If not, I'll devote some time to doing an inventory.

[upprdeck]

isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

[Trotsky]

isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?

No.

I've done something like 95% of the box scores, from a hundred different sources over, well, 30 years of work including work by many busy beaver assistants and also Art's incredible records.  But that doesn't get me the poll data.

The best bet would be the Boston Globe, which did a very decent job of reporting polls at least from the 80s onwards, or Birkmeyer since I believe he faithfully reported the polls from the 50s through the 80s.  Until recently at least the Globe archiving project was proceeding slooooooooooooowly, but I haven't checked for about a year.  Their indexing is horrific so it's almost like mounting old microfiche and scrolling through it.  If ever there was a job for AI.

Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall.  Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap.  I'm cool with that.

[abmarks]

isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?


Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall.  Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap.  I'm cool with that.

I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall.   What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time

[Trotsky]

isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?

In a word?


Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall.  Fuck that.

It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.

If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap.  I'm cool with that.

I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall.   What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time

As much as I appreciate it, it won't be a small amount of time.  :-)

[upprdeck]

isnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?

[Trotsky]

isnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?

You're assuming (1) there are Cornell archives and (2) we have an AD or SID who returns emails.

Obviously the last 25+ years of work would have been easier with Cornell's help.  For whatever reason that has never been forthcoming despite many approaches.

The smaller the fiefdom, the more jealously guarded.

[upprdeck]

no i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.

[abmarks]

no i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.

How?

[upprdeck]

anyone with cornell access can get to most any paper thru the library system.  but you need a netid

[Bahnstorm]

Yes with an active netid you can get things like the Globe going way back through things like the library's subscription to the Proquest Historical Newspapers collection.
Some services require a student or faculty netid and alumni aren't covered, but many services are covered for alumni netids too: https://alumni.library.cornell.edu

Pick any major newspaper and search the Cornell library catalog, taking into account changes in publication name over time, and chances are it is online through one or more of the resources the library subscribes to or has digitized themselves:

Boston Globe up to 1960: https://newcatalog.library.cornell.edu/catalog/9135035
1960 to Present:
https://newcatalog.library.cornell.edu/catalog/5370668

In searching the Globe archive, I found it amusing that at least since 1951 they were discussing issues surrounding the NCAA team selection. Globe, March 1951: