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[ugarte]

https://twitter.com/Anthony_Angello/status/982034341063774208

[Jim Hyla]

Mitch Gillam named to 2017-18 ECHL All-Rookie Team

[Trotsky]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd have loved to see him back but it's his best move.

[BearLover]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd gave loved to see him back but it's his best move.

His best move if his goal is to make the NHL at all costs and he needs the money from this year's AHL salary. Not his best move if he values his education/college hockey team more than that.

[Trotsky]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd gave loved to see him back but it's his best move.

His best move if his goal is to make the NHL at all costs and he needs the money from this year's AHL salary. Not his best move if he values his education/college hockey team more than that.

Don't be melodramatic.

He's got 2 semesters to go -- you can make that up with a couple of summers work like Nieuwendyk did.  I don't think we're exactly talking about an Architecture degree, here.

There is no "cost" to him.  He gets the guarantee of his signing bonus as insurance against some fluke career-ending injury.  He's obviously going to pursue hockey as a first choice career so postponing his degree does not hurt him.  It might even help him since in finishing later he'll be rolling off the academic conveyor belt with whatever the snotty fad-of-that-year final touches are ("I have just one word for you, son..." ).

Plus if you're talking about the actual self-improvement of education, frankly you get more of that from being an adult autodidact than you do at Cornell's glorified white collar vocational school these days.

[BearLover]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd gave loved to see him back but it's his best move.

His best move if his goal is to make the NHL at all costs and he needs the money from this year's AHL salary. Not his best move if he values his education/college hockey team more than that.

Don't be melodramatic.

He's got 2 semesters to go -- you can make that up with a couple of summers work like Nieuwendyk did.  I don't think we're exactly talking about an Architecture degree, here.

There is no "cost" to him.  He gets the guarantee of his signing bonus as insurance against some fluke career-ending injury.  He's obviously going to pursue hockey as a first choice career so postponing his degree does not hurt him.  It might even help him since in finishing later he'll be rolling off the academic conveyor belt with whatever the snotty fad-of-that-year final touches are ("I have just one word for you, son..." ).

Plus if you're talking about the actual self-improvement of education, frankly you get more of that from being an adult autodidact than you do at Cornell's glorified white collar vocational school these days.

You're (correctly) reading into my post a value judgment on Angello's decision, a value judgment inspired in part by me being a bit bitter over his departure, but I fully understand every hockey player's dream is to play in the NHL and that Pittsburgh probably threw a good deal of money at him. With that said, many players in Angello's position turn down such offers every season in favor of returning to their teams and their schools. Maybe not at Minnesota and BU, who can instantly restock with top recruits, but if we want to compete with those schools we need these players to show a very high level of loyalty to Cornell. Vesey, Vecchionne, Verroneau are some recent examples of players with as good of or greater a shot at an NHL career than Angello spurning the pros to return for their senior season. It's too bad he wasn't named Vangello.

[ugarte]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd gave loved to see him back but it's his best move.

His best move if his goal is to make the NHL at all costs and he needs the money from this year's AHL salary. Not his best move if he values his education/college hockey team more than that.

Don't be melodramatic.

He's got 2 semesters to go -- you can make that up with a couple of summers work like Nieuwendyk did.  I don't think we're exactly talking about an Architecture degree, here.

There is no "cost" to him.  He gets the guarantee of his signing bonus as insurance against some fluke career-ending injury.  He's obviously going to pursue hockey as a first choice career so postponing his degree does not hurt him.  It might even help him since in finishing later he'll be rolling off the academic conveyor belt with whatever the snotty fad-of-that-year final touches are ("I have just one word for you, son..." ).

Plus if you're talking about the actual self-improvement of education, frankly you get more of that from being an adult autodidact than you do at Cornell's glorified white collar vocational school these days.

You're (correctly) reading into my post a value judgment on Angello's decision, a value judgment inspired in part by me being a bit bitter over his departure, but I fully understand every hockey player's dream is to play in the NHL and that Pittsburgh probably threw a good deal of money at him. With that said, many players in Angello's position turn down such offers every season in favor of returning to their teams and their schools. Maybe not at Minnesota and BU, who can instantly restock with top recruits, but if we want to compete with those schools we need these players to show a very high level of loyalty to Cornell. Vesey, Vecchionne, Verroneau are some recent examples of players with as good of or greater a shot at an NHL career than Angello spurning the pros to return for their senior season. It's too bad he wasn't named Vangello.

Vescey stayed for all 4 years.

[billhoward]

Good luck to Anthony.  I'd gave loved to see him back but it's his best move.

His best move if his goal is to make the NHL at all costs and he needs the money from this year's AHL salary. Not his best move if he values his education/college hockey team more than that.

I used to think it was stupid to turn pro early ... what better way to spend four years than on campus playing sports, chasing coeds (or vice versa if you're a jock), why jump the gun when life is good. Now, so many people do it, it's no big thing. And a lot of Cornell athletes have come back to finish up.

[redGrinch]

Drafted players are really pushed by the NHL clubs to sign before their senior year. The teams fear that if they play out their senior year, they're only 4 months from being a free agent and being able to go to the highest bidder (a la Vesey).  Such players are being paid well over what their junior hockey peers would get in similar draft rounds.  Angello got $925k from the Pens - the Caps gave Shane Gersich, who was drafted a just a few spots ahead of Angello the same deal.  the guy drafted a couple spots ahead of that is at $740k.

[Jim Hyla]

Drafted players are really pushed by the NHL clubs to sign before their senior year. The teams fear that if they play out their senior year, they're only 4 months from being a free agent and being able to go to the highest bidder (a la Vesey).  Such players are being paid well over what their junior hockey peers would get in similar draft rounds.  Angello got $925k from the Pens - the Caps gave Shane Gersich, who was drafted a just a few spots ahead of Angello the same deal.  the guy drafted a couple spots ahead of that is at $740k.

So I have some questions about what Angello really signed and what he'll get. I've seen it said he signed an "Entry-Level Contract" and an "Amateur Tryout Contract". I poorly understand these, so can anyone help?

And where did you see his salary listed? If the $ amounts are correct, would he not be on a two-way contract? If so and he's just in tne AHL, does he get the $70K and not $925K?

Help please.

[redGrinch]

I use CapFriendly - yes, Angello is a 2-way deal; $70 k in the minors. I think a fair amount of the decision-making process in these situations (leaving early) is the liklihood of being able to step straight into an NHL role as opposed to spending time in the miniors.

[Willie]

If I were Angello's advisor, I'd tell him to take the contract.  He gets $92,500 now as a signing bonus.  He gets $70,000 for the minors and $925,000 prorated for each NHL week he is rostered.  Four of the eight Penguin Centers are restricted or unrestricted free agents next year.  The remaining four Penguin Centers have salaries ranging from $3,000,000 to $9,500,000.  Angello has an excellent chance to replace an unsigned Center.  His challenge is to up his game to a consistent NHL level.  He has the talent to do so.  And the downside is $162,500 for a job he loves everyday.  This will be his career.  He is that good.

[Jim Hyla]

I use CapFriendly - yes, Angello is a 2-way deal; $70 k in the minors. I think a fair amount of the decision-making process in these situations (leaving early) is the liklihood of being able to step straight into an NHL role as opposed to spending time in the miniors.

Thanks, that helps a lot.

[David Harding]

Drafted players are really pushed by the NHL clubs to sign before their senior year. The teams fear that if they play out their senior year, they're only 4 months from being a free agent and being able to go to the highest bidder (a la Vesey).  Such players are being paid well over what their junior hockey peers would get in similar draft rounds.  Angello got $925k from the Pens - the Caps gave Shane Gersich, who was drafted a just a few spots ahead of Angello the same deal.  the guy drafted a couple spots ahead of that is at $740k.

So I have some questions about what Angello really signed and what he'll get. I've seen it said he signed an "Entry-Level Contract" and an "Amateur Tryout Contract". I poorly understand these, so can anyone help?

And where did you see his salary listed? If the $ amounts are correct, would he not be on a two-way contract? If so and he's just in tne AHL, does he get the $70K and not $925K?

Help please.

The story on the Penguins site says

The Pittsburgh Penguins have signed forward Anthony Angello to a two-year, entry-level contract, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Jim Rutherford.

Angello's deal will begin with the 2018-19 campaign. He will report to the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins on an amateur tryout contract.

W-B/S Penguins have five games left in the season (tonight, tomorrow, and three next weekend), so it's possible he could even see action this month.  I'd be interested to hear thoughts on how he compares with the other centers in the Penguins pipeline.

[ACM]

And some of our alumni aren't playing: https://www.ihe.ca/about/staff-directory