Cornell lacrosse 2018

[upprdeck]

have to fix the X and figure how to handle the shut off..   Maryland used their #3 defender to slow Cornell down..

[Jim Hyla]

have to fix the X and figure how to handle the shut off..   Maryland used their #3 defender to slow Cornell down..

Best coaching at face-guarding yet. Why burn your top defense if all you're going to do is run around with the offensive player?

[upprdeck]

he needs to get stronger, so he can take these guys when under pressure.. great hands dont help if you cant get free

[Trotsky]

If faceguarding was unsolvable it would have been used to erase every great player for the last forty years, so either we are responding with the wrong tactics or Teat isn't able to thwart it the way other great players have.

[Swampy]

If you watched the post-game show on TV, I think it was QK, who said something even more to point. It was something like, "When Ben Reeves is on the field he's the best athlete on the field, but if you look at today's game, Jeff Teat is nowhere near the best athlete on the field."

This implies that solving the SOT strategy has to start with Jeff himself. There are 8 months before lacrosse season starts again, and he needs to be in the weight room and running every day between now and then. Look to add about 10-15 lbs of muscle, bench-press twice his weight, and get his time for 100 yds under 10.0 sec. He also needs to practice dodging, going both to the left and right of the defender.

[mike1960]

If you watched the post-game show on TV, I think it was QK, who said something even more to point. It was something like, "When Ben Reeves is on the field he's the best athlete on the field, but if you look at today's game, Jeff Teat is nowhere near the best athlete on the field."

This implies that solving the SOT strategy has to start with Jeff himself. There are 8 months before lacrosse season starts again, and he needs to be in the weight room and running every day between now and then. Look to add about 10-15 lbs of muscle, bench-press twice his weight, and get his time for 100 yds under 10.0 sec. He also needs to practice dodging, going both to the left and right of the defender.

That will undoubtedly help but Trotsky is right in my view: a major problem is tactics. Let me just say, Peter Milliman knows more about lacrosse than I will if I live to be 500, but turning your best offense player into a spectator when the other team faceguards does not seem to be the right strategy. After Princeton, the offensive production went down 40 percent or more with the five-man attack absent Teat. At some point, you'd hope Coach would say, Ok, we tried it. It didn't work as well as we thought. We'll try something else.

In the NBA, for example, face guarding is just par for the course. Stephen Curry is faceguarded all the time. That's why he has to work so hard to get open on most offensive sets. He doesn't get open because he bulks up. He gets open because of 1) designed sets and 2) hard work on his part.

[BearLover]

Yes, I don't quite understand what bulking up has to do with getting the ball in the first place. Is it that the Teat should be outmuscling the faceguarding D to get into open position? It seems a better way to do it is to cut away from him. Can you set picks for someone who doesn't have the ball?

The fact Cornell's offensive production decreased considerably without Teat in the offense means the coaching staff should have done more to incorporate him, unless for some reason Teat himself was incapable of whatever needed to be done to get open.

[Swampy]

Yes, I don't quite understand what bulking up has to do with getting the ball in the first place. Is it that the Teat should be outmuscling the faceguarding D to get into open position? It seems a better way to do it is to cut away from him. Can you set picks for someone who doesn't have the ball?

Yes you can. In fact, a common pick pattern is for an attackman to have the ball behind the goal; meanwhile in the midfield one middie sets a pick for another, who comes around the pick open to receive a pass from the attackman and "quick stick" it into the goal.

One aspect of this kind of pick is that the player who eventually will be the target for the pass makes a sharp, right-angle turn around the picking teammate. Even if the opposing defender fights through the pick, this pattern requires him to back away from the pick or be outflanked.

As for Teat bulking up, watch videos of him when he either backs into a defender or has a pick and then tries to get around the defender who's now a step behind. In many instances I saw him being overpowered by the defender and even falling to the ground. Then watch videos of Rob Pannell doing things like bringing the ball around from in back of the goal. (I'm talking about his college play, not his current professional play.) Pannell often used his low center of gravity and brute strength to either back-off or shoulder the opposing defender as he (Pannell) took the ball into a dangerous scoring location.

I'm not advocating Teat bulk up just to gain weight. I think being stronger would really help him, and I think the extra strength (and speed) would come with extra muscle. Jake Pulver's frosh description has him at 195 lb., but the 2018 roster has him at 215. I heard on one broadcast that he bench presses 416 lb., but I doubt he did this his freshman year at 195. If Teat combines his skill and lacrosse intelligence with the athleticism of a Pulver or Pannell, watch out.

[upprdeck]

just watch the replays.. teat is one of the slowest players out there.  just chasing loose balls he looks like he is carrying 50lbs trying to get to endlines ahead of the D

its much harder to get open when you lack the speed and quickness, it can be improved but by how much?

[Swampy]

just watch the replays.. teat is one of the slowest players out there.  just chasing loose balls he looks like he is carrying 50lbs trying to get to endlines ahead of the D

its much harder to get open when you lack the speed and quickness, it can be improved but by how much?

Your question is rhetorical, but I think the real answer is, "It depends." If he's already running up and down the stairs at the 'kopf for two hours every day, doing 100 reps of leg presses with 500 lb., always running on the balls of his feet, eating only foods with high nutritional value, etc., then probably he's already near his physical maximum. OTOH, if he spends all his time practicing against a wall with his left hand and then goes out for pizza and a Coke, then perhaps more attention to some of these other aspects of his game would pay higher dividends.

I'm not sure of his age, but this very interesting article implies he's 21. If so, this may be unfortunate since he would have more physical upside if he were 19.

Just for kicks, I looked over Cornell Lacrosse's roster for guys who are 5'10" like Jeff:

Colton Rupp: 180 lb.
Austin Fingar: 180 lb.
Zach Ward: 170 lb.
Clarke Petterson: 180 lb.
Joseph Bartolotto III: 190 lb.
Jeff Teat: 165 lb.
Selden Leonard: 180 lb.

In terms of overall weight on the team, here are some numbers in increasing order:

Matt Licciardi is the lightest at 5'7" and 145 lb.
Caelahn Bullen at 5'11" and 160 (but remember he's a goalie)
Jeff Teat 5'10" & 165
Ryan Bray at 5'11" & 165
Luca Tria at 5'11" & 165

We often think of a player who's lighter as being quicker and faster. But this isn't necessarily so. If the extra weight is muscle, it may translate into extra speed. It would be very interesting to see the roster's times in the 40-yard and 100-yard dash.

[George64]

Pulver wins Senior CLASS Award.

Teat first team USILA All-American.  Knight, Dowiak and Pulver also honored.

[mike1960]

We have a Richard M. Moran Head Coach of Men's Lacrosse. Congrats Coach Milliman!

http://cornellbigred.com/news/2018/5/24/milliman-promoted-to-richard-m-moran-head-coach-of-mens-lacrosse.aspx

[CU77]

Congrats to PM on a well-deserved appointment.

[KenP]

Pulver wins Senior CLASS Award.

Teat first team USILA All-American.  Knight, Dowiak and Pulver also honored.

What an amazing young man.

[George64]

Cornell goalie commit Chayse Ierlan to play in Under Armour All-America Game.  If the name looks familiar, he's the brother of Albany FOGO TD Ierlan.