Cornell lacrosse 2018

Started by billhoward, August 07, 2017, 05:21:56 PM

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Al DeFlorio

Noticed the classy, modest-in-size white C on the red helmets worn against Brown.  Big improvement.
Al DeFlorio '65

CU77

Quote from: mountainredAs long as an ACC school is eligible for the tournament they are on the bubble.  Who you lose to is very important in college lacrosse, far more important than actually winning games.
That used to be true, but I think it hasn't been since the change in selection criteria in 2009.

Cornell now #8 on the selection committee's ranking:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/lacrosse-men/article/2018-04-19/college-lacrosse-rankings-yale-flies-no-4-albany-still-no-1

mike1960

If the FOGO wins the ball but is immediately stripped of the ball for a turnover, does that count as a faceoff win? What does it look like on the stat sheet?

Yale up 6-2 on Albany with 7:13 in the 2nd. They look really solid. Can't wait for the next meeting between the Big Red and the Elis.

mountainred

Quote from: CU77
Quote from: mountainredAs long as an ACC school is eligible for the tournament they are on the bubble.  Who you lose to is very important in college lacrosse, far more important than actually winning games.
That used to be true, but I think it hasn't been since the change in selection criteria in 2009.

Cornell now #8 on the selection committee's ranking:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/lacrosse-men/article/2018-04-19/college-lacrosse-rankings-yale-flies-no-4-albany-still-no-1

It's better than it was; it used to be that you could name the at-large selections in January (the entire ACC, Hopkins, the Ivy runner-up).  Still, strength of schedule is the first criteria the NCAA lists and you'll notice 6-5 Notre Dame is the first team listed as also receiving consideration.

Let's just say, I don't trust the NCAA to do the right thing.  Ever.

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82FYI, if you have multiple browsers, you can vote multiple times each day.

I assume this applies to multiple devices: maximum daily votes = sum(device x browsers on device for all devices), with devices = home desktop, work desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, Fire TV, ... . ::crazy::

No, I have two different browsers (Firefox and Opera) on my laptop.  It let me vote using each of them, both yesterday and today.

Edit:  And I cleared my cookies in Firefox and re-started the browser.  It let me vote again.

mike1960

Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.


billhoward

Quote from: mike1960Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.
Add 2-10 Dartmouth, playing its best lacrosse, taking #20 Penn to 2 OTs and then losing. If you grade on a curve, they're hot-hot-hot.

scoop85

Quote from: mike1960Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.

I'd add Bucknell and Loyola to that list, with Navy not too shabby either.  The top of the Patriot league is impressive this year.

billhoward

Quote from: mike1960Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.
Albany loses Connor Fields, their Rob Pannell, to a knee injury. MRI Monday. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/connor-fields-injury-looms-over-danes-but-he-remains-positive-influence-on-team/52021

mike1960

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: mike1960Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.

I'd add Bucknell and Loyola to that list, with Navy not too shabby either.  The top of the Patriot league is impressive this year.

I would agree with that. It feels like there's a lot of parity this year at the top. Cornell might have as good a shot as anyone.

ugarte

Did everyone here watch the end of the Navy - Syracuse game? Navy ties the game up with 12 seconds left. The Middie and Orange FOGOs are brothers (and large boys). Navy wins the faceoff, scoops the ball on one hop and sprints downfield. Makes one pass, the guy gets stripped but it bounces right back to the FOGO who picks it up and fires it in with less than a second to play for the upset W.

billhoward

Incredible ending. Nice for Navy. Was thinking also: Our Quality W over Syracuse is slipping a bit.

mountainred

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: mike1960Albany and Maryland lost. The three teams playing their best lacrosse now are Duke, Yale, and Cornell.
Albany loses Connor Fields, their Rob Pannell, to a knee injury. MRI Monday. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/connor-fields-injury-looms-over-danes-but-he-remains-positive-influence-on-team/52021
It didn't look good when he went down without contact.  It would be a shame if he missed the tournament.

billhoward

Media poll 4/23 has Cornell #6, Yale #1 http://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Cornell #6 in Quint Kessenich's personal top 20 in http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/quint-s-top-20-ready-for-confetti/52025

Quote from: Quint Kessenich6. Cornell — The Big Red lit up Brown 19-5, blowtorching the Bears while putting 34 shots on cage. Jeff Teat had two goals and eight assists and is on my Tewaraaton short list. A 1-2 finish in the Ivy League is a ticket to the NCAA Tournament — and perhaps a home game. The Big Red keep winning and their RPI keeps dropping, now down to No. 13. How is Peter Milliman coaching status still interim? Sign this man to a real contract! He's done fabulous work.
Midfielder Jordan Dowiak was picked at No. 33 in the MLL draft by Dallas.
Princeton and Michael Sowers host the Big Red on Saturday. If you're a young attackman I suggest you watch Teat and Sowers and take notes.
1.  Duke
2.  Yale  
3.  Maryland
4.  Denver
5.  Albany
6.  Cornell
7.  Loyola
8.  Hopkins
9.  Rutgers
10. Virginia

Tough crowd over at the USILA poll. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/usila-coaches  They jumped Yale from 5 to 2 (and did the reverse to Albany). We clobber Brown and remain stuck at No. 8.  

The RPI that could determine our fate is unkind. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/usila-coaches  We are No. 13. Yale is 4. Syracuse (we beat them) is 9. Penn (we rolled them, 20-13) is just one spot behind. If I read the rules correctly, 11 of the 16 spots go to AQs. (There is a one-game play-in of the two lowest-ranked conference champions.) Yale will go regardless.

The NCAA says this is the criteria https://www.ncaa.com/championships/lacrosse-men/d1/road-to-the-championships

• Strength of schedule index.
• Results of the RPI.
   -  Record against ranked teams 1-5; 6-10; 11-15; 16-20; 21+      
   -  Average RPI win (average RPI of all wins)
   -  Average RPI loss (average RPI of all losses)
• Head-to-head competition:
   -  Results versus common opponents.
   -  Significant wins and losses (wins against teams ranked higher in the RPI and losses against teams ranked lower in the RPI).
   -  Locations of contests.
• Input from the regional advisory committee (comprised [sic] of lacrosse coashes from all AQ conferences).