Cornell lacrosse 2018

[mountainred]

His wife, Lisa (?), has Penn State ties and like an endowed professorship here, PSU made a husband/wife package deal, IIRC.

While Michelle Tambroni is a PSU alum, she has no official position there, either now or at the time Jeff took the job in 2010.

Penn State did welcome Michelle back to the area in a press release that is fairly unusual:  PSU release. She may volunteer some with the team, I don't follow enough Field Hockey to know.

[Trotsky]

You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain! ::smashfreak::

Um.  Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

[rss77]

The Cornell job pays reasonably well.  I think they wanted a change of venue.  BTW lacrosse has a long history at Penn State-hardly a newish program. Glen Thiel was their head coach for years.  Tambroni has not done badly but has not achieved down there what he did at Cornell. There is something to be said for tradition and competing against Maryland and Hopkins is like pushing a big rock up a hill.

[ugarte]

The Cornell job pays reasonably well.  I think they wanted a change of venue...

The amount that Cornell pays is very unlikely to be competitive with what Penn State pays.

[Swampy]

You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain! ::smashfreak::

Um.  Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

I should have mentioned being comfortably up on another team and blowing it in the last quarter. IIRC, Tambroni did take some heat (among fans) for poor game management towards the end of the 2009 game.

[mountainred]

You have good memories of Tambroni at Cornell. We do, too, including the fond memory of blowing out Virginia in the 2009 semifinal and then leading Syracuse for fifty-nine plus minutes of the title game. From there, it's a blank.

So at the game were Cornell fans chanting "2009" to taunt Tambroni? Oh, the pain! ::smashfreak::

Um.  Haven't we kinda sucked since he left?

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

I should have mentioned being comfortably up on another team and blowing it in the last quarter. IIRC, Tambroni did take some heat (among fans) for poor game management towards the end of the 2009 game.

Jeff was still with us in 2010, so he gets credit for that final four team (along with a sophomore named Pannell).  And he took a lot of heat for overusing his first midfield line which would -- allegedly -- lead to fourth quarter fades.  Have to admit that I thought about that sitting in the stands at Sparks on Saturday.

[Al DeFlorio]

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round.  Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons.  Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence.  [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

[Swampy]

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round.  Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons.  Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence.  [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

Quint! OMG!

Even Hell can have climate change.

[billhoward]

Well, not exactly. He left after the 2009 season, and we finished #1 in the Ivies every year until 2014, except for 2012, when we finished 2nd. Nationally we were ranked #1 according to Laxpower's Power Rating in 2010, 2011, and 2013. AN fired Ben DeLuca in the fall of 2013. Cornell had a successful year with his players the following spring. But the wheels started to come off after that.

The team made the NCAAs in 2014 and 2015 (seeded eighth the latter year) after heavy 2013 graduation losses (Pannell, Mock, Van Bourgondien, Noble, Keith, Bronzino, et al), losing in the first round.  Three years of recruiting weak in offensive talent (see this year's and last year's senior classes) resulted in sub-par 2016 and 2017 seasons.  Now, with three strong recruiting classes on the offensive side (Teat, Pettersen, Piatelli, Fletcher, McCulloch, J. Donville, Duggan, Licciardi) we will, I hope, see a resurgence.  [Quint has Cornell #14 this week.]

Quint! OMG! Even Hell can have climate change.

Maybe he's just more pissed at somebody else.

[TimV]

The Cornell job pays reasonably well...

But even though the Cornell head coach is endowed, the AD probably looked at that as allowing him to budget less for lacrosse rather than paying more to keep him.  I'm pretty sure it was all about the dollars, and the stuff about a position for his wife was a smokescreen.

...lacrosse has a long history at Penn State-hardly a newish program. There is something to be said for tradition...

Correct about their program not being new.  But compared to Cornell they have zero tradition and puny player alum support.  

Tambroni has not done badly but has not achieved down there what he did at Cornell...and competing against Maryland and Hopkins is like pushing a big rock up a hill.

Correct.  Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.."  BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM.  And he had to know it.  That's another reason why I think it was the money.

[ugarte]

When Penn State wants to build a program they have an insane amount of money to throw at it. We can't compete on those terms. If Penn State wanted Schafer they could probably sign him away.

[mike1960]

Correct.  Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.."  BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM.  And he had to know it.  That's another reason why I think it was the money.

Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

[Swampy]

Correct.  Even with those 12.5 scholarships, new facilities, and all that "We Are.."  BS it's gonna be a long time, if ever, that he rivals JHU and UM.  And he had to know it.  That's another reason why I think it was the money.

Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

Tierney is right up there with the other deities: Knute Rockne, John Wooden, Ned Harkness.

[TimV]

Underscores what an amazing job Bill Tierney has done out in Denver.

Not the same.  Although he plays a tough schedule, he's in a much less competitive conference.  He's a proven recruiter without a lot of admission constraints and a Hall-of-Fame caliber coach for sure.

[mike1960]

Not the same.  Although he plays a tough schedule, he's in a much less competitive conference.  He's a proven recruiter without a lot of admission constraints and a Hall-of-Fame caliber coach for sure.

When you win the national title, you've essentially beaten every conference in the entire nation.