Cornell football 2017

Started by billhoward, June 16, 2017, 11:23:35 AM

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Al DeFlorio

Like to see Harley Kirsch get a shot at QB.
Al DeFlorio '65

scoop85

Not a great day for Walker at RB, and the other RB's are slow and have no escapabiity.

Ken711

To be honest Delaware is clearly out of Cornell's league.  I get wanting to challenge the team, but wins against more beatable opponents wouldn't hurt.  Cornell with Yale, Colgate and Harvard coming up is likely staring at an 0-4 start to the season.

TimV

Quote from: Ken711Cornell with Yale, Colgate and Harvard coming up is likely staring at an 0-4 start to the season.

Are you suggesting you think Brown is a possible W?  The way this team looks we have a great shot at oh-for-2017.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Ken711

Quote from: TimV
Quote from: Ken711Cornell with Yale, Colgate and Harvard coming up is likely staring at an 0-4 start to the season.

Are you suggesting you think Brown is a possible W?  The way this team looks we have a great shot at oh-for-2017.

No, I'll think they have a chance in their home games against Bucknell, Brown and possible Columbia.  3-7 is the best outcome I see.

Ken711

Final 41-14 close to my guess of 38-10.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Just got home from the game.  I think the fact that we fumbled on our first play from scrimmage says it all.

The defense actually wasn't half bad,  We kept them fairly well contained in the first half, and forced a couple field goals after giving up great field position on turnovers. Though to be fair, Delaware's QB overthrew a lot of wide open receivers,

But this may have been the worst offense I have ever seen play in a Cornell uniform.  We had no running game whatsoever, and 4 interceptions put an end to any passing momentum we could muster. Frankly, they tried to be a little too cute on offense and it led to errors - big errors - like the interception on the halfback option pass. I think we finished with less than 300 yards of total offense, and less than 20 yards rushing.  Feh!  

Delaware is not that great a team, at least based on their record last year.  So either they've improved a lot or we are just horrible.  Sadly, I think it's the latter.

How long 'til the Red and White game?

Ken711

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Just got home from the game.  I think the fact that we fumbled on our first play from scrimmage says it all.

The defense actually wasn't half bad,  We kept them fairly well contained in the first half, and forced a couple field goals after giving up great field position on turnovers. Though to be fair, Delaware's QB overthrew a lot of wide open receivers,

But this may have been the worst offense I have ever seen play in a Cornell uniform.  We had no running game whatsoever, and 4 interceptions put an end to any passing momentum we could muster. Frankly, they tried to be a little too cute on offense and it led to errors - big errors - like the interception on the halfback option pass. I think we finished with less than 300 yards of total offense, and less than 20 yards rushing.  Feh!  

Delaware is not that great a team, at least based on their record last year.  So either they've improved a lot or we are just horrible.  Sadly, I think it's the latter.

How long 'til the Red and White game?

How long until the next head football coach change?

billhoward

Quote from: Ken711Final 41-14 close to my guess of 38-10.
We were about to congratulate you for the accurate prediction. Somebody beat us to it.


Cornell's coach also is good at doing math on the fly:
Quote from: Jeff Archer '05We gave up the ball five times in the first half and they scored 27 points off them. They won by 27 points."

Still trying to figure this one out, though:
QuoteI think defensively, given the field position I think they did some nice things. Those guys don't play in the Ivy League.

I was away (in Ithaca) and didn't check in on the game until last night, didn't know how bad it was. But lack of a score in the headline scared me. Geez, one game in, and the evidence mounts that the players are in for a rough season. They're trying as hard as anyone else.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Just got home from the game.  I think the fact that we fumbled on our first play from scrimmage says it all.

The defense actually wasn't half bad,  We kept them fairly well contained in the first half, and forced a couple field goals after giving up great field position on turnovers. Though to be fair, Delaware's QB overthrew a lot of wide open receivers,

But this may have been the worst offense I have ever seen play in a Cornell uniform.  We had no running game whatsoever, and 4 interceptions put an end to any passing momentum we could muster. Frankly, they tried to be a little too cute on offense and it led to errors - big errors - like the interception on the halfback option pass. I think we finished with less than 300 yards of total offense, and less than 20 yards rushing.  Feh!  

Delaware is not that great a team, at least based on their record last year.  So either they've improved a lot or we are just horrible.  Sadly, I think it's the latter.

How long 'til the Red and White game?

How long until the next head football coach change?

Not soon enough!

ugarte

Getting mad about being blown out by Delaware is a bit much. This may not be - probably will not be - a good season, but I don't think the coaching is as big a problem as institutional indifference towards the program.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteGetting mad about being blown out by Delaware is a bit much. This may not be - probably will not be - a good season, but I don't think the coaching is as big a problem as institutional indifference towards the program.
Agreed.  Yale was 3-4 / 3-7 last year.  They seem like a much better test of where this team is.

billhoward

Quote from: ugarteGetting mad about being blown out by Delaware is a bit much. This may not be - probably will not be - a good season, but I don't think the coaching is as big a problem as institutional indifference towards the program.
Hear, hear

Ken711

Quote from: ugarteGetting mad about being blown out by Delaware is a bit much. This may not be - probably will not be - a good season, but I don't think the coaching is as big a problem as institutional indifference towards the program.

That is certainly a contributing factor.  As an example, there was looking like movement toward building an indoor practice facility under the late Cornell President Elizabeth Garrett,  It appears everything has stalled under new President Pollack on it.

billhoward

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: ugarteGetting mad about being blown out by Delaware is a bit much. This may not be - probably will not be - a good season, but I don't think the coaching is as big a problem as institutional indifference towards the program.
That is certainly a contributing factor.  As an example, there was looking like movement toward building an indoor practice facility under the late Cornell President Elizabeth Garrett,  It appears everything has stalled under new President Pollack on it.
Pollack from Michigan should know equally as well as Garrett from USC that the arms race in college athletics now includes 120-yard covered practice fields in cold-weather states. It will benefit more than football. Other Ivy teams have them. It would allow Cornell to play February home lacrosse matches no matter how much snow. There might even be some time for students to use such a facility. The facility coming to fruition most likely involves alumni involvement to fund it (and also fund the upkeep).