NCAA tourney

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DisplacedCornellian

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Quote from: KGR11I did some data analysis based on what BearLover's saying. I found the ECAC'S OOC winning % for each year for Schafer's tenure (Source: CHN) and plotted it against the number of Cornell NCAA Tournament games (TBRW). There is a negative correlation: A 10% increase in ECAC OOC% means a 0.33 decrease in the number of NCAA tournament games Cornell plays (Rsquared value=0.04).

This comparison leaves a lot to be desired since there's only 4 discreet values for the number of NCAA tournament games. To make up for this, I also plotted OOC vs. Cornell's RPI rank as reported in TBRW (only available for years 2017,2014,2013,2003-2010). There was still a negative correlation: for a 10% increase in ECAC OOC%, our RPI ranking dropped 6.6 spots (Rsquared value=0.22).

Rsquared values aren't necessarily great and I'm not fully capturing Bearlover's argument (I didn't take into account a lag between ECAC OOC performance and Cornell's results), but there is a correlation during Schafer's time that a weak ECAC OOC is good for Cornell.

Couldn't this be interpreted as saying that Cornell's performance is a constant, and when the ECAC is improved, Cornell looks relatively worse?

Wouldn't that be the same as saying the rising tide doesn't lift all ships/yachts, since Cornell's, um, schooner, didn't uhh...elevate?

Trotsky

Quote from: HookingHave rules changes/interpretation in the last decade or so influenced what style of play in college hockey is more successful? For example, is the defensive "trap" strategy less or more successful? Has the relative success of speed versus strength changed? Have recruiting priorities changed, and if so how?
The calls and the rules have been evolving to discourage "impedance" (interference, hooking, holding, tripping) and to lower the threshold of hits being considered roughing.  IMO the college game has opened up over the last decade -- noticeably, although of course we are nowhere near the 8-7 firewagon hockey of the late 70s and early 80s.  I watch maybe 2 NHL games a year so I have no idea whether the pros have been affected.

redice

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Quote from: HookingHave rules changes/interpretation in the last decade or so influenced what style of play in college hockey is more successful? For example, is the defensive "trap" strategy less or more successful? Has the relative success of speed versus strength changed? Have recruiting priorities changed, and if so how?
The calls and the rules have been evolving to discourage "impedance" (interference, hooking, holding, tripping) and to lower the threshold of hits being considered roughing.  IMO the college game has opened up over the last decade -- noticeably, although of course we are nowhere near the 8-7 firewagon hockey of the late 70s and early 80s.  I watch maybe 2 NHL games a year so I have no idea whether the pros have been affected.

For sure.....   I don't think the 02-03 Cornell team would be nearly as successful now as it was then...  They would be spending a LOT more time in the penalty box, especially one Mr. Murray!!!   God, how I used to love watching him hit people...
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Jordan 04

The annual "Other ECAC teams winning national titles is great for....  Cornell!" argument. Completes my eLynah Bingo card.

marty

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The fans of which team returned those tickets?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

jtwcornell91

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The fans of which team returned those tickets?

Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.
For that matter, OP alluded to "fans."  Can't see how that relates to Harvard.

jtwcornell91

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Quote from: jtwcornell91Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.
For that matter, OP alluded to "fans."  Can't see how that relates to Harvard.

All six of their jerk fans graduated summa cum laude in 2003, right?

marty

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.
For that matter, OP alluded to "fans."  Can't see how that relates to Harvard.

All six of their jerk fans graduated summa cum laude in 2003, right?

I heard that to honor their players today that the entire team will be designated as Alternate Captains....
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

marty

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.
For that matter, OP alluded to "fans."  Can't see how that relates to Harvard.

All six of their jerk fans graduated summa cum laude in 2003, right?

I heard that to honor their players today that the entire team will be designated as Alternate Captains....

...so that they can wear the appropriate letter.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

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Quote from: marty
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Having attended the DU-CC semifinal in Columbus, I'm not prepared to rule out Denver as the answer to that question.
For that matter, OP alluded to "fans."  Can't see how that relates to Harvard.

All six of their jerk fans graduated summa cum laude in 2003, right?

I heard that to honor their players today that the entire team will be designated as Alternate Captains....

...so that they can wear the appropriate letter.
http://i.imgur.com/utzTCyo.png

Hooking

I believe that would be a Scarlet Letter.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: HookingI believe that would be a Scarlet Letter.

I believe that would be Ohio State.

Trotsky

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: HookingI believe that would be a Scarlet Letter.

I believe that would be Ohio State.
This is also officially "scarlet."

Trotsky

Fuckin' Harvard... 26.6 seconds